Is Chivalry Really Dead? And Why?

.....saying "Good morning" to you.

I am just remembering this professor fellow, whom I mentioned before, moving me physically across the sidewalk, gently of course, so that I was in the right place. Safe, you know, from the street. Which is why we had our discussion.

He was head of a psychoanalytic institute. I was, y'know, me. Much the same then as now, but typing less.

I'll leave this thread with a gentle "watch your asses".

Merry Andrew wrote:

.....saying "Good morning" to you.

Yeah? Who sez? How do you know it's good? You trying to cause trouble here, bub?

What a sh*t-disturber!

Speaking about who pays, I was raised that if someone asked you out, be it a gentleman, a neighbour, or your boss, they're paying. If someone says, "Let's get together for dinner some time", that's not a date or an invitation, that's a suggestion for a friendly meal, and we go dutch or argue about the bill when it arrives.

And I would feel completely weird if a guy expected me to sit and wait for him to open the door. What a waste of time.

On the other hand, my husband frequently drops us women off outside the restaurant/theatre/whatever in the pouring rain... we sure do appreciate that.

For almost 4 decades people have been sued who tried to make the tiniest distinction between men and women, private clubs for men have been picketed, and now you ask why chivalry is dead.

Brandon9000 wrote:

For almost 4 decades people have been sued who tried to make the tiniest distinction between men and women, private clubs for men have been picketed, and now you ask why chivalry is dead.

I had nothing to do with that, so don't take it out on me

I don't know what private mens clubs have to do with chivalry. You implying that if women had left men alone they'd still be chivalrous?! LOL...

Of course, I don't believe men in their clubs should have been bothered in the first place - why shouldn't they have their own hang out? Allt hat equality stuff went a little too far - there IS a difference between the sexes, we all know it, so why not allow it? Would women really want men listening in to their conversations? I think not.

Brandon9000 wrote:

I'm referring to the systematic attempt for decades to force people to behave as though the sexes were identical, e.g. suing to forbid ladies' nights at bars, etc. If you can't see how this systematic effort to extinguish, or at least minimize, the differences would put a damper on customs based on the differences, then I have no more to say about it.

Well, I don't see it as a systematic attempt at enforcement of equality, I see it as an an effort to enlighten which we all needed and still do, but as with all movements, the pendulum went from one extreme to other. That kind of motion always causes backlash, and rightly so. I believe, however, that we're at or approaching the mid-zone. Nature will reassert itself and you'll be back to being accepted as a full-blooded male and probably allowed to have your clubs again.

Women don't actually want to be male or hang out with them all the time; we were merely reacting to age-old superiority that had been systematically enforced upon us.