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It's Time to Stand Against Israel

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 02:19 pm
revel wrote:

I think I'll let Set (if he is so inclined)take this one as I would have to do a lot of studying and I am fixing to get out of here and do some shopping. Somehow, I bet you left out some key facts.


Hey, Revel, cut Baldy a little slack. He shipped out some months ago and he's likely up to his ass in all sorts of dangerous duties hunkered down there in the Green Zone.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 02:32 pm
Israeli Apartheid

Imagine, if you will, a modern apartheid state with first, second and eleventh class citizens, all required to carry identification specifying their ethnic origin. First class citizens are obliged to serve in the armed forces, kept on ready reserve status until in their forties, and accorded an impressive array of housing, medical, social security, educational and related benefits denied all others.

Citizens of the eleventh class, really not citizens at all, have no rights citizens of the first class or their government are bound to respect.

Citizens of the eleventh class are routinely arrested, tortured, and held indefinitely without trial. Political activism among them is equated to "terrorism" and the state discourages such activity by means including but not limited to the kidnapping of suspects and relatives of suspects, demolition of their family homes, and extralegal assassination, sometimes at the hands of a death squad, or at others times by lobbing missiles or five hundred pound bombs into sleeping apartment blocks or noonday traffic.
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Is this how you define a thriving 'democracy'? Would you have said that about Pieter Willem Botha's South Africa?

You get three guesses, and the first two don't count.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 03:38 pm
revel wrote:
What if before the revolution and we were still under the the Yoke of the English, it was decided that people who are descendants from India would have a state somewhere in the America colonies, they would be provided with everything they needed to survive and defend themselves. Let's just pretend that Indians were being persecuted and were spread out all over the world Before long Indians were soon outnumbering everybody else and they had more money and weapons and everything. Soon it was like everybody else was occupied by the Indians even though they were there first as well. Its just not fair and this is the situation with Israel and it is not being anti semite to state it.


You are forgetting the fact that the Jerusalem area is their ancient homeland. Unlike your example, in reality the Jews were there first.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 03:42 pm
freedom4free wrote:
Citizens of the eleventh class are routinely arrested, tortured, and held indefinitely without trial. Political activism among them is equated to "terrorism" and the state discourages such activity by means including but not limited to the kidnapping of suspects and relatives of suspects, demolition of their family homes, and extralegal assassination, sometimes at the hands of a death squad, or at others times by lobbing missiles or five hundred pound bombs into sleeping apartment blocks or noonday traffic.


The deliberate killing of civilians by covert operatives is not "political activism". It is terrorism.

And if they don't want Israel to take stern measures to prevent them from killing Israeli civilians, then they shouldn't be trying to kill Israeli civilians.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 04:22 pm
JTT wrote:
revel wrote:

I think I'll let Set (if he is so inclined)take this one as I would have to do a lot of studying and I am fixing to get out of here and do some shopping. Somehow, I bet you left out some key facts.


Hey, Revel, cut Baldy a little slack. He shipped out some months ago and he's likely up to his ass in all sorts of dangerous duties hunkered down there in the Green Zone.


well I hope he's enjoying it.After all he ran around talking about his hard on for it so long......
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 04:34 pm
oralloy wrote:

You are forgetting the fact that the Jerusalem area is their ancient homeland. Unlike your example, in reality the Jews were there first.


In reality, there were a diverse group of peoples in "the Jerusalem area" since ancient times. The Ashkenazim of Eastern and Central Europe are made up of peoples with Slavic, Germanic, Turkic and other Asiatic ethnicities, as well as Semitic from "the Jerusalem area."
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 04:44 pm
oralloy wrote:

The deliberate killing of civilians by covert operatives is not "political activism". It is terrorism.

And if they don't want Israel to take stern measures to prevent them from killing Israeli civilians, then they shouldn't be trying to kill Israeli civilians.


The deliberate killing of civilians by covert operatives, or terrorism, is a tactic that is, and has been used by many different groups to achive political ends; groups such as the various terrorist groups in Palestine attempting to change the status quo of Zionist occupation of all of Palestine, including Israel, and the two major Zionist terrorist groups Irgun Tsvai Leumi (Irgun) and Lohamei Herut Israel (LEHI) who managed to drive the British out of Palestine, and were instrumental in decimating the Arab population through ethnic cleansing in the areas of Palestine that the Zionists were to control under the state of Israel during the 1948 war.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 05:18 pm
oralloy wrote:
And if they don't want Israel to take stern measures to prevent them from killing Israeli civilians, then they shouldn't be trying to kill Israeli civilians.


that's to be expected. what's regrettable is hundreds of civilians, not terrorists, being killed in Lebanon because 2 soldiers were abducted.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 07:24 pm
freedom4free wrote:
Israeli Apartheid

Imagine, if you will, a modern apartheid state with first, second and eleventh class citizens, .


You've still never answered my analysis of your misunderstood-genius hero Adolf Hitler and how he could have won WW-II if he'd had an IQ much over 85.

Any comments??
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 08:00 pm
freedom4free wrote:
Israeli Apartheid

Imagine, if you will, a modern apartheid state ...


I'll say it again. If your man Adolf had had the brains God gives chickens, there were a baker's dozen fairly simple things he could have done differently, any one or two of which would have won the war for him.

He could have simply not invaded Russia; it would have fallen apart within five years and he cold have picked up the pieces.

He could have entered the war with the 300 ocean going U boarts which Doenitz wanted instead of building "pocket battleships".

He could have insisted on taking Gibralter prior to the war. He might have had to offer Franco the 10 fairest 16-year-old freuleins in Germany at the time, but that couldn't be worst than what actually happened.

He could have mass produced the jet messerschmidt starting in 39 and totally denied the skies over Germany to the allied air forces.

He could have built small (like Independance class) carriers to send out 30 miles behind the U boats so that any escort ship trying to go after U boats wouldhave had rockets being fired at it from the air.

Isn't it a shame your man never figured any of that **** out, and the evil Jews took over the world??
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The Sweet Desert
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 12:14 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
The Palestinians firebomb a school bus, and the Israelis undertake a punitive military response, as anyone would, never deliberately trying to kill civilians. Your posts on A2K signify only that you're an anti-semite.


Anti-Semite, nah not again!!

Permit me to ask you a question and I'd appreciate your reply:
Aren't both parties Semitic!?

Thanks in advance Smile
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The Sweet Desert
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 12:26 am
gungasnake wrote:
Ever wonder why other Arab states won't take the "palestinians" in? Think it might have something to do with their conduct?


Gun, well, any statistics about rape rate in Texas and the US as a whole!!

But, let's pay tripute to Histopry, Arabs are these who made a civilization in the West but after Muslims withdrew from Europe, people began deteriorating there and of course you'd have heard much news about Drinking Problem in Denmark...
Ask Shakespeare...

By the way, this photo, wow, how apt!

Your remark drew my attention and I just wanted to clarify some points, feel free to accept them

Thank you
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 05:09 am
The Sweet Desert wrote:

Location: In the arms of my white She-Camel!...



consider:


The Three Billygoats Gruff


Many years ago, in the Khwarism kingdom, the empire centered
around the cities of Samarkand, Bukhara, and Gurgange in the territory now called Uzbekistan, there was a bridge across a narrow section of the Syr Daria river and this bridge was guarded by a troll, named Ali Mohammed Qa-eelbasi. This was before the padishah Mohammed of the Khwarism empire burned the beards off of four of the infidel dog Chengis Khan's ambassadors and Chengis Khan reduced that entire territory to a smoking ruin (may he who cannot take a joke endure Allah's curse).

Now, this Ali Mohammed Qa-eelbasi was quite wealthy by inheritance and by dint of clever investment strategies and stock trading and, having no need of money or wealth beyond his possessions, and being an islamic troll, rather than demanding money from travellers seeking to cross his bridge, was in the habit of demanding various other favors from them.

One morning while Ali Mohammed was guarding his bridge and attempting to catch fish in the Syr Daria, he heard the light clatter of little hooves on the wooden planks of his bridge and looked up to see a little billygoat traipsing across the bridge, trippity, clippity, clippity, trippity, and this little goat (Allah be praised!!) had glossy white fur and flowers in his mane, and was wearing a silk petticoat with what appeared to be lace panties underneath, Ali Mohammed could not be quite certain, and a little training bra from Bloomingdales', and had a coy smile upon his face.

"ALLAH BE PRAISED"!! shouted Ali Mohammed! Surely the faithful shall prosper, this must be my lucky day!!!!

And, the little goat looked at Ali Mohammed, the coy smile still on his lips, and said:

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"Verily, I should be happy for you to have your way with me and ravish me to your heart's content but, were you to do that, you would then be too exhausted to appreciate my brother when he passes this way. He is only a short distance behind me and he is a larger, finer and more lovely goat than I; he buys ALL of his clothing from Victoria's Secret."


Now, when Ali Mohammed heard this, he was overcome with passion and desire, and could scarcely restrain himself; nonetheless, he replied: "Go then, with Allah's blessing", and allowed the little goat to cross the bridge unmolested. "I shall (eagerly) await your brother!"

Ali Mohammed went back to his efforts to catch fish and, about a half hour later, he heard a somewhat heavier fall of hooves across the wooden planks of his bridge: clippity cloppity clop, clippity cloppity clop, and Ali Mohammed looked up to a sight which aroused within him a veritable paroxism of passion. This was a larger goat with a gossamer veil over his face, red roses braided into his glossy white silky fur all around, a golden necklace and the thinnest sort of a purple gossamer bodice of finest khitan silk, and dark, brown bedroom eyes.

"ALLAH BE PRAISED!!!" shouted Ali Mohammed, "Verily, this must be the luckiest day of my life, for surely no troll has ever beheld so lovely, and desirable, and alluring a goat as thee!"

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"Patience!" replied the goat. "Surely you might have me if you wish, but then you would be too exhausted to appreciate my eldest brother, who travels only a short distance behind me. He is the sexiest and most voluptuous and alluring goat in all the world, and he buys ALL of his clothing at Sexy Sadies Midnight Boutique. Verily, were he standing here beside me, you would not notice me at all!"


Ali Mohammed somehow or other managed to restrain his lust and passion and allowed this goat to pass as well and, after ten or twelve minutes when he collected his wits and got his pulse and breath back under control, returned to his fishing poles.

Now when the eldest brother amongst the three goats came up to the bridge over the Syr Daria river and walked upon its wooden planks, Ali Mohammed did not notice at first, because this goat's hooves, for some reason, made no sound. Ali Mohammed was in fact taken by complete surprise as this third goat walked up to within five feet before the troll ever saw him at all. This goat had a silken veil as did the second goat, and gossamer clothing but, underneath the gossamer, appeared to be a very strange goat indeed, yellowish with black stripes, a long tail, fearsome claws, and huge, very non-goatlike teeth. This third goat spoke these words:

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"Bless, O Lord, this food to my use and me to thy service, and make me ever mindful of the needs of others through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen."


and, with that, seized the unlucky troll in his mighty jaws, chewed him into bitesized pieces, and wolfed him down.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 06:03 am
JTT wrote:
revel wrote:

I think I'll let Set (if he is so inclined)take this one as I would have to do a lot of studying and I am fixing to get out of here and do some shopping. Somehow, I bet you left out some key facts.


Hey, Revel, cut Baldy a little slack. He shipped out some months ago and he's likely up to his ass in all sorts of dangerous duties hunkered down there in the Green Zone.



Well it's almost been a year and I'm in Afghanistan not Iraq. No green zone here but I have been a base that has been mortared about 15 times in the last 6 months. In fact 4 days ago a mortar landed about 100 Ft from the building I live in. You would be amazed at how loud one of those explosions really is. Remember that I only work on helicopters.


Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
JTT wrote:
revel wrote:

I think I'll let Set (if he is so inclined)take this one as I would have to do a lot of studying and I am fixing to get out of here and do some shopping. Somehow, I bet you left out some key facts.


Hey, Revel, cut Baldy a little slack. He shipped out some months ago and he's likely up to his ass in all sorts of dangerous duties hunkered down there in the Green Zone.


well I hope he's enjoying it.After all he ran around talking about his hard on for it so long......


You are wrong I only mentioned that I was going, it was you and a few others who were always asking about it, I'm sure it was to see if I was lying about it. I didn't brag about coming here you were always asking wondering if I was leaving checking to make sure it was going to happen making a big deal about it. So check yourself buddy.

So you know I have been enjoying my time here. It has been dangerous and boring all at the same time. I almost look forward to my next deployment, it only depends on who I am deployed with. The active duty units we are with are **** bags who don't know how to do their duties. We are always called **** bag reservists but I will tell you what, when they can do their jobs as well as we can then they can make fun of us until then I wish they would shut their mouths.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 06:10 am
Baldimo

Good to hear from you.

er.

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The active duty units we are with are **** bags who don't know how to do their duties. We are always called **** bag reservists but I will tell you what, when they can do their jobs as well as we can then they can make fun of us until then I wish they would shut their mouths.


I see you are still getting along with others just as well as ever.

Joe(keep your head down and your hands inside the vehicle)Nation
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 06:19 am
Joe Nation wrote:
Baldimo

Good to hear from you.

er.

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The active duty units we are with are **** bags who don't know how to do their duties. We are always called **** bag reservists but I will tell you what, when they can do their jobs as well as we can then they can make fun of us until then I wish they would shut their mouths.


I see you are still getting along with others just as well as ever.

Joe(keep your head down and your hands inside the vehicle)Nation


Well if you must know we get alone just fine as long as they don't try and play the active/reserve game. I'm being honest when I tell you that we do a better job then they do. The active duty unit in Bagrahm has just as many helicopters as we do but can't keep them in the air. We being the reserve unit have just as many helicopters as they do and we keep no less then 8 of our 12 fly able at all times. As I said they want to call us the **** bag reservists but if that were true why are we better then them? Plus they seem to get all the credit for the work. That has a tendency to make people in my unit mad. After all 1st Cav got all the credit for the hard work we did in Pakistan, it just keeps adding up to make us mad!
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 07:03 am
baldimo, you seem to be your regular self. but is it any way to "support the troops" by calling them s***bags? (of course, since you're part of them, you're entitled to do that.) anyway, keep up the good work.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 03:41 am
InfraBlue wrote:
oralloy wrote:

You are forgetting the fact that the Jerusalem area is their ancient homeland. Unlike your example, in reality the Jews were there first.


In reality, there were a diverse group of peoples in "the Jerusalem area" since ancient times.


The kingdom of the Jews was populated primarily by Jews.



InfraBlue wrote:
The Ashkenazim of Eastern and Central Europe are made up of peoples with Slavic, Germanic, Turkic and other Asiatic ethnicities, as well as Semitic from "the Jerusalem area."


The fact that Jews who were driven from their homelands ended up interbreeding with other races does not change the fact that they are Jewish.

And now that they have reclaimed their rightful homeland, don't expect to see them driven out again without a nuclear war that will cost a hundred million Muslim lives.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 03:45 am
yitwail wrote:
oralloy wrote:
And if they don't want Israel to take stern measures to prevent them from killing Israeli civilians, then they shouldn't be trying to kill Israeli civilians.


that's to be expected. what's regrettable is hundreds of civilians, not terrorists, being killed in Lebanon because 2 soldiers were abducted.


Bad things happen to countries that commit acts of war against Israel.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 10:53 am
oralloy wrote:
yitwail wrote:
oralloy wrote:
And if they don't want Israel to take stern measures to prevent them from killing Israeli civilians, then they shouldn't be trying to kill Israeli civilians.


that's to be expected. what's regrettable is hundreds of civilians, not terrorists, being killed in Lebanon because 2 soldiers were abducted.


Bad things happen to countries that commit acts of war against Israel.


It wasn't a country but a rebel Islamic militant group. Leveling a whole a country and killing and wounding hundreds of innocent civilians is a little overkill for kidnapping merely two Israeli soldiers.
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