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Is abortion really wrong?

 
 
Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 07:38 pm
Chaplin wrote:
Your confusing the issue; it's about abortion - not somebody that's already born.


Both cases.....living beings

Was it out of convenience or lack of authorative reasoning that you ignorned my question about law?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 07:45 pm
Intrepid wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
They keep tossing in fake issues, because they have run out of legitemate arguments.


Since when is life a fake issue? Question


Play your silly games with eorl and anybody else that will engage you. This is a ridiculous discussion we're having. It's like being on an evolutuon or religion thread. Slippery questions, no fact taken for what it is- -try to trap with words, because there are no more arguments. I leave it with you.
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 07:57 pm
Eorl wrote:
Scott777ab wrote:
Eorl wrote:
Scott, what do you define as murder?

The "logic" of scott's statement should become evident by his/her answer.


Murder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Murder is the unlawful killing of one human being by another through any action intended (or in some countries also being recklessly indifferent) to kill or cause grievous bodily harm.

My Change to this statement for you answer.

Murder is the Immoral killing of one human being by another through any action intended (or in some countries also being recklessly indifferent) to kill or cause grievous bodily harm.


I see. Wiki's definition of murder does not fit, so you need to make your own. So what, then, is immoral killing Scott? Killing that you, personally, find immoral? But not killing that I find immoral?

You are saying it's moral for you to kill a doctor or a woman that has an abortion...but it's immoral for them to kill a foetus? What do you base that reasoning on Scott?

Those who were defending Scott's sound "logic" are also encoraged to reply.


True or False? They taking of an innocents life is Immoral?
Simple question.
My answer will be based on your answer of this question.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 07:58 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
They keep tossing in fake issues, because they have run out of legitemate arguments.


Since when is life a fake issue? Question


Play your silly games with eorl and anybody else that will engage you. This is a ridiculous discussion we're having. It's like being on an evolutuon or religion thread. Slippery questions, no fact taken for what it is- -try to trap with words, because there are no more arguments. I leave it with you.


In other words, you concede?

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:19 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Don't be assinine, Brandon.

And how is it assinine to ask politely that you to support your posted contention that the Constitution provides the right to abortion? I'm sure you'd prefer to post your opinions here on the Politics Forum without challenge. It would seem that your sole technique of political debate is name calling. You have asserted that there is a Constitutional right to abortion. Provide me a quotation of that part of the Constitution.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:22 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
Don't be assinine, Brandon.

And how is it assinine to ask politely that you to support your posted contention that the Constitution provides the right to abortion? I'm sure you'd prefer to post your opinions here on the Politics Forum without challenge. It would seem that your sole technique of political debate is name calling. You have asserted that there is a Constitutional right to abortion. Provide me a quotation of that part of the Constitution.


The Supreme Court decided the question, Brandon, as you already know.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:24 pm
Intrepid wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
They keep tossing in fake issues, because they have run out of legitemate arguments.


Since when is life a fake issue? Question


Play your silly games with eorl and anybody else that will engage you. This is a ridiculous discussion we're having. It's like being on an evolutuon or religion thread. Slippery questions, no fact taken for what it is- -try to trap with words, because there are no more arguments. I leave it with you.


In other words, you concede?

Another attempt to win with slippery words on your part. I don't concede, just see that you have no further ammo to use.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:27 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
Don't be assinine, Brandon.

And how is it assinine to ask politely that you to support your posted contention that the Constitution provides the right to abortion? I'm sure you'd prefer to post your opinions here on the Politics Forum without challenge. It would seem that your sole technique of political debate is name calling. You have asserted that there is a Constitutional right to abortion. Provide me a quotation of that part of the Constitution.


The Supreme Court decided the question, Brandon, as you already know.

You are the one who brought the subject up with a post here on the Politics Forum. Since you've done that I have a perfect right to ask you to support what you've asserted. Where in the Constitution does it provide a right to abortion? Could it be that you have no idea how to answer other than by claiming the question is invalid?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:28 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
This is a ridiculous discussion we're having. It's like being on an evolutuon or religion thread.


In case you lept before you looked, this IS a religious thread.
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:31 pm
Scott777ab wrote:
Eorl wrote:


I see. Wiki's definition of murder does not fit, so you need to make your own. So what, then, is immoral killing Scott? Killing that you, personally, find immoral? But not killing that I find immoral?

You are saying it's moral for you to kill a doctor or a woman that has an abortion...but it's immoral for them to kill a foetus? What do you base that reasoning on Scott?

Those who were defending Scott's sound "logic" are also encoraged to reply.


True or False? They taking of an innocents life is Immoral?
Simple question.
My answer will be based on your answer of this question.


So you wanna play word games. Well, OK, I guess that's better than just shouting your opinion.

My answer is : No, not always true.

Your turn:

True or false: The cold blooded premeditated killing of one human being by another is immoral.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:32 pm
Intrepid wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
This is a ridiculous discussion we're having. It's like being on an evolutuon or religion thread.


In case you lept before you looked, this IS a religious thread.


Religious for the religious maybe, but we have not been discussing religion.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:35 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
Don't be assinine, Brandon.

And how is it assinine to ask politely that you to support your posted contention that the Constitution provides the right to abortion? I'm sure you'd prefer to post your opinions here on the Politics Forum without challenge. It would seem that your sole technique of political debate is name calling. You have asserted that there is a Constitutional right to abortion. Provide me a quotation of that part of the Constitution.


The Supreme Court decided the question, Brandon, as you already know.

You are the one who brought the subject up with a post here on the Politics Forum. Since you've done that I have a perfect right to ask you to support what you've asserted. Where in the Constitution does it provide a right to abortion? Could it be that you have no idea how to answer other than by claiming the question is invalid?



The question was answered by the Supreme Court, who already pored over the document in determining abortion is allowable. You don't like it, take it up with them. This is a religious forum, as intrepid just pointed out.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:38 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
Don't be assinine, Brandon.

And how is it assinine to ask politely that you to support your posted contention that the Constitution provides the right to abortion? I'm sure you'd prefer to post your opinions here on the Politics Forum without challenge. It would seem that your sole technique of political debate is name calling. You have asserted that there is a Constitutional right to abortion. Provide me a quotation of that part of the Constitution.


The Supreme Court decided the question, Brandon, as you already know.

You are the one who brought the subject up with a post here on the Politics Forum. Since you've done that I have a perfect right to ask you to support what you've asserted. Where in the Constitution does it provide a right to abortion? Could it be that you have no idea how to answer other than by claiming the question is invalid?



The question was answered by the Supreme Court, who already pored over the document in determining abortion is allowable. You don't like it, take it up with them. This is a religious forum, as intrepid just pointed out.

I stand corrected. Since you asserted that it's a right guaranteed by the Constitution, I though I'd see if you could shed any light on what statement in the Constitution provides this right. You have no idea at all then?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:42 pm
I have plenty of idea, but you would only start a prolonged attack on the parts that I would bring up. But, your arguments would be irrelevant in the light of the legality established already. I'm going to bed.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 08:44 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
This is a ridiculous discussion we're having. It's like being on an evolutuon or religion thread.


In case you lept before you looked, this IS a religious thread.


Religious for the religious maybe, but we have not been discussing religion.


More of your word games? The fact is this IS a religion thread.
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echi
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 09:16 pm
An abortion thread. Oh what fun!
Let's see... Abortion is wrong. No exceptions.
(That was easy.)
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 10:05 pm
echi wrote:
An abortion thread. Oh what fun!
Let's see... Abortion is wrong. No exceptions.
(That was easy.)


No, it isn't...and yes, there are.

(Just as easy)
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 10:32 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
I have plenty of idea, but you would only start a prolonged attack on the parts that I would bring up. But, your arguments would be irrelevant in the light of the legality established already. I'm going to bed.

I'm sure that you could make the most erudite pronouncements about how the Constitution protects the right to an abortion. How clever of you to keep them entirely to yourself.
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echi
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 10:35 pm
Hey, Eorl... We just completed the whole cycle, and it only took two posts! Why go through the hassle of arguing with people who, as far as we can tell, don't respond to reason (at least on this issue)?
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 4 Sep, 2006 10:55 pm
Echi, done !!

Now we can all get some sleep !
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