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Saving Private Lynch - a Made-Up Story.

 
 
Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 30 May, 2003 09:31 am
I saw Lynch's dad being interviewed last night. Briefly. He deflected most of the questions, saying an investigation is under way. He seemed like a nice guy, salt of the earth type, and now he and his family are in the middle of a ridiculous scenario, thanks to our gov't.

Not to mention the made-for-TV movies that may be out the window with all this controversy!
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 12:32 pm
The actor Christopher Walken would be a good one to play Donald Rumsfeld. Walken is capable of portraying the mock seriousness and meanness of the Rumsfeld personality.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 03:09 pm
I have only one question. How are the supporters of GWBush responding to this fiasco? c.i.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 03:33 pm
Not, I think, CI!
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 03:34 pm
My sense is that they're dealing with this the way they're dealing with every other problem post-Operation Iraqi Freedom. Either pretend it isn't there or blame it on Democratic carping...
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 03:49 pm
First, there was another opinion article by Robert Scheer (which I can't bring up, but if you're signed up with the LA Times, you can) in which he talks about the WH hollering at him (without denying the story), and also about how - finally - other papers, including a Toronto one, have started checking into and verifying the BBC story.

Rupert Murdoch had entered into a mucho money movie-tv deal, which they now can't produce. So there is some justice, after all.

And how are some of the NUTS responding to all this? Well, after the denials came the "you'd believe a newspaper story over what our Pentagon reports?" When that didn't wash, came the patriotism cries. Now they don't want to hear about it. And I've also noticed that there was very little written about the news reporters embedment with the military.

Now I understand Jessica Lynch's amnesia. Safest thing for her to say.

My doctor this morning - that republican midwestern converted into a democrat - was furious that our press would not have questioned and investigated the story before printing it wholesale from the Pentagon. I guess all the discussions we've had while taking my blood pressure and sundry other tasks have borne fruit.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 03:53 pm
Not wanting to hear about it, alas, is a preference shared by too many of our fellow citizens, I fear. We want a feel-good story to cap off a feel-good war. And if you've seen many feel-good movies, you know how realistic they are!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 03:57 pm
The feel good war ain't over yet . . . as D'Artagnan will recall from another thread, former Iraqi soldiers are threatening attacks, including suicide attacks on American forces. The Pollyanna crowd is likely to have a rough year ahead.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 04:02 pm
Indeed, Setanta. Can the feel-good feeling keep on through the next presidential election? Stay tuned...
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 04:05 pm
I'm beginning to believe that the Achilles heel is not the economy, not Iraq - not a lot of things - but that little character flaw called hubris, particularly when it comes to lies.

As more and more of them come out, it becomes difficult to deny, and then they scramble. Ive noticed recently that when Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, Bush talk, they're now on the defensive. And that has changed from the positive bluster of a short while ago.

Seems the question of "Where are the WMD?" will not simply fade away, and it may have reached the point now where, if something is found, there will be doubts and questions about whether or not that mine was salted.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 04:05 pm
Quote:
Pentagon Aims Guns at Lynch Reports
Robert Scheer

May 29, 2003

It is one thing when the talk-show bullies who shamelessly smeared the last president, even as he attacked the training camps of Al Qaeda, now term it anti-American or even treasonous to dare criticize the Bush administration. When our Pentagon, however ?- a $400-billion- a-year juggernaut ?- savages individual journalists for questioning its version of events, it is worth noting.

Especially if you're that journalist.

Last week, this column reported the findings of a British Broadcasting Corp. special report that accused the U.S. military and media of inaccurately and manipulatively hyping the story of U.S. Pvt. Jessica Lynch and her rescue from an Iraq hospital. The column was also informed by similar and independently reported articles and statements in the Toronto Star, the Washington Post and other reputable publications.

Expected ?- and received ?- was a hysterical belch of outrage from the right-wing media, led by Rupert Murdoch's Fox empire, which has already committed a huge book advance to the telling of this mythic tale. A fiery and disingenuous response from the Pentagon, however, was quite a bit more sobering.

Calling the column a "tirade," Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs Victoria Clarke wrote in a letter to The Times that "Scheer's claims are outrageous, patently false and unsupported by the facts."

"Official spokespeople in Qatar and in Washington, as well as the footage released, reflected the events accurately," the Pentagon letter continued. "To suggest otherwise is an insult and does a grave disservice to the brave men and women involved."

Actually, what is a grave disservice is manipulating a gullible media with leaked distortions from unnamed official sources about Lynch's heroics in battle. That aside, it would have been easier to rebut the Pentagon if its spokeswoman had actually questioned any of the facts the BBC or this column reported. In particular, the Pentagon turned down the request by the BBC and other media to view the full, unedited footage of the rescue.

Perhaps Clarke is frustrated that in the days since the BBC report, several major publications such as the Chicago Tribune and the London Daily Mail have independently verified much of the BBC's disturbing account of what the broadcasting corporation called "one of the most stunning pieces of news management ever conceived."

The distortions concerning Lynch began two days after the rescue with a front-page Washington Post story by veteran reporters Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb. They cited U.S. officials as the source of their information that Lynch "fought fiercely and shot several enemy soldiers, firing her weapon until she ran out of ammunition" and that she "continued firing after she sustained multiple gunshot wounds." The Post quoted one of the unnamed U.S. officials as saying "she was fighting to the death. She did not want to be taken alive."

Despite their current defensiveness, Clarke and other Pentagon honchos had to know that the story attributed to U.S. officials was false because Lynch had at that point already been rescued and examined by U.S. military doctors, who found no evidence of a single gunshot wound, let alone multiple gunshot wounds. Yet they did nothing to challenge the Post story, which was carried worldwide and quickly became the main heroic propaganda myth of the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

It was only last week, after the BBC-initiated brouhaha, that the Pentagon finally launched its own investigation of what actually occurred when Lynch was taken prisoner. According to the Washington Times, the investigation came about after top Pentagon officials cast doubt on the Lynch battle-scene account, of which she has no memory.

However, the Pentagon investigators were not asked to look into the circumstances surrounding Lynch's subsequent rescue. Much of the BBC's account has now been supported by other media investigations, which confirm that a U.S. attack on an unguarded hospital was spun into the stuff of Hollywood heroics.

The Tribune's Monday story, for example, provided new details of how slickly a tale of derring-do was created, enhanced for television by that five-minute Pentagon-supplied night-vision video. The Tribune also added details supporting the BBC account that hospital staff members had placed Lynch in an ambulance and tried to deliver her to a U.S. checkpoint before being turned back by random American fire.

What is particularly sad in all of this is that a wonderfully hopeful story was available to the Pentagon to sell to the eager media: one in which besieged Iraqi doctors and nurses bravely cared for ?- and supplied their own blood to ?- a similarly brave young American woman in a time of madness and violence. Instead, eager to turn the war into a morality play between good and evil, the military used ?- if not abused ?- Lynch to put a heroic spin on an otherwise sorry tale of unjustified invasion.

The truth hurts, but that's no excuse for trying to shoot the messenger.

latimes.com 5/29/03
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 04:11 pm
I think you're right, Mamaj. It's really really important for any presidential candidate to start pointing a steady finger at um, prevarication, um, twisting the truth, um, GODDAMN LIES!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2003 04:14 pm
Trent Lott (and a number of others on the Hill) have come out against the FCC decision.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jun, 2003 11:54 pm
Book title for Pvt. Lynch:

Little Lambs who Lost their Way :wink:
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 12:08 am
I think you're being charitable, williamhenry.

What sustains me is the money and opportunity Rupert Murdoch is losing through this. And I feel sorry for Lynch and the others, but surely they knew what this was about from the beginning of the production. I understand about following orders, but certain other countries have used that, too. We're supposed to be bigger than that.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 04:54 am
I would note that while having no blinkers on my eyes about the truly cynical and hypocritical nature of Rummy and Crew, that i dislike bashing Lynch personally, even in an oblique manner. It is unjust to compare Lynch to Nazi officials, and members of the police and judiciary, as well as serving officers of the Wehrmacht. When those shits said that they were only following orders, they were patently avoiding the responsibility given them by the positions they occupied in society and the military--they were copping out big time. Lynch is, militarily speaking, a nobody. If she is told to keep her mouth shut, and does so, it is definitely a case of discretion being the better part of valor. I don't take her for a poor exploited victim any more that i see her as valiant war hero--i do see her as way out of her depth, and i think she should be given a wide margin of benefit of doubt. Most people posting here have a good deal more sophistication and are far more articulate--but none of us have our future on the line in hashing this out. Give her a break, will ya.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 09:09 am
I have no doubts that Pvt. Lynch is a fine young woman who is unwittingly caught in this charade of U.S. government propoganda.

One should not fault her personally.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 09:13 am
I agree with Setanta and williamhenry. Pvt. Lynch is an unwitting pawn in this scenario. One suspects she's in a more dangerous situation now than when she was being cared for in that Baghdad hospital!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 10:59 am
But what do we know.
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 12:45 pm
I do sympathize with Lynch, and all the other foot soldiers caught up in this?

But my question is - where does responsibility for this lie? This was done under orders, and they knew they were helping. The ones over them were complicit. They have now taken part in a moral and actual lie, and are getting away with it.

I agree that Lynch and others were placed in terrible positions, and part of my sympathy lies in the fact that they are the ones named - not the big perptraors. But I can't help thinking that this is just another part of the moral morass we're sinking in.
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