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Hoping For Some Input....

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 02:03 pm
Rex-

My last post remains unanswered. Is it beneath your contempt? That's the usual answer.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 02:04 pm
Mathos wrote:
Not at all.


Then he could go on gassing the Kurds and sit up late at night watching re-runs of his torture videos...
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 02:08 pm
Mathos,

Right now, I don't think even his lawyers would want him on the loose again. At least the ones that haven't been assassinated yet.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 02:13 pm
spendius wrote:
This is all very odd.

On the one hand there is the anti-war faction which is surely posited on the teaching of Jesus that one should "turn the other cheek" when smitten by an enemy and on the other a Jesus fanatic who is for slamming the buggers where it hurts most.


Spendi buddy...

There is not a single question mark in the post...

In all consideration... how can I answer a question when one is not really asked that I can see?

I do mostly agree with your assessment.

Note:
Jesus died so we could live

Jesus turned the other cheek so we could smack someone in the head... Twisted Evil

Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 02:35 pm
True spirituality is an ideology of life and love. So it attacks and expels other ideologies of hate that live in the center of the will in the mind.

So the true Christian "attacks" erroneous spiritual ideologies not physical flesh and blood.

That does not mean that we do not have to attack back physically when we "and our neighbors" are being attacked.

But we also need to win the war of ideology.

We fight communism because it degrades the individual right to liberty.

We fight socialism because it degrades free honest enterprise.

We fight hate because it degrades the soul and the body.

Yet, nothing can degrade the spirit.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 05:41 pm
Drunk
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 05:44 pm
ENDYMION wrote:
Drunk
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 05:48 pm
Oh no Rex-

Jesus said to turn the other cheek. The exact words I used when I saw 9/11. It is one of his most famous remarks.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 06:34 pm
spendius wrote:
Oh no Rex-

Jesus said to turn the other cheek. The exact words I used when I saw 9/11. It is one of his most famous remarks.


Jesus' ministry was to Israel not the church of God.

1Co 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

Comment:
The "Bible" classifies the world into three distinct groups of people.

Jews, Gentiles, church of God

Jesus Christ told his apostle to only go unto the lost sheep of the house of israel.

This is why the Epistles seem to contradict the Gospels because they are ADDRESSED to different people.

The Epistles are addressed to the church (including Jew and gentile)

The Gospels are "only" addressed to the Lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The gospels were a "law" period the epistles are a grace period or administration.

This is why the lords prayer contradicts the prayers of the epistles.

Jesus did not change his focus "address" on his ministry until the last pages of each of the four gospels when he finally instructed the disciples to go unto "every" creature...

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Comment:
At the end of the gospels he changed the "address" or "to whom" and said:

Mr 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


Comment:
Very important Biblical principle, getting "to whom the word is addressed" correct.

The four Gospels are not addressed "TO" us but they are "FOR" our learning.

This is why the Gospels "seem to" contradict the Epistles because of, TO WHOM the word is addressed.

Once this is understood, contradictions fall away and a consistent message is obtainable.

The Lords prayer says give us our daily bread.

The epistles say God has already supplied all of our need through Christ Jesus. We need not ask for it just claim it. It was given to us 2000 years ago.

the Gospels say forgive others as we are forgiven

The Epistles say just ask God and God is faithful and will forgive us (that is if we are really sorry)...

ALSO,
The Gospels are not part of the new testament...

They fulfill the old testament...
The new testament begins at the book of Acts.
Acts is the fulcrum from the old into the new.

This has cause untold error.

Great men of God have lived and died and never made it beyond the Gospels to the new birth of the Epistles in their studies due to not understanding where the "new testament" actually begins.

Peace with God
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Reyn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 06:34 pm
Maybe he had this in mind?

http://www.sas.org.uk/events/outside_events/portrush1.jpg
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 06:44 pm
It's weird Reyn but that is what I thought that scripture meant for years.

I thought he meant turn the other butt cheek and walk off...

Talk about a western mind trying to understand an eastern document..

Also the phrase of oxen yoked together...

I though that was an egg yoke.

Rolling Eyes
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:00 pm
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/240021/2/istockphoto_240021_twin_egg_yolks.jpg
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:02 pm
Your brain on God... Laughing
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:18 pm
RexRed wrote:
1Co 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:


Quote:
The word Gentile from the Latin gentilis, can either be a translation of the Hebrew Goy; or of the Hebrew word Nochri;. In the most common modern use it refers to the former being derived from the Latin term gens (meaning "clan" or a "group of families") and it is often employed in the plural. In late Latin gentilis meant "pagan", and the term gentile has equally come to be used as a synonym for "heathen" or "pagan" (Nochri).


Don't offend the Jews, don't offend the heathens. Don't offend anyone.

That pretty much covers things.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:24 pm
ehBeth wrote:
RexRed wrote:
1Co 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:


Quote:
The word Gentile from the Latin gentilis, can either be a translation of the Hebrew Goy; or of the Hebrew word Nochri;. In the most common modern use it refers to the former being derived from the Latin term gens (meaning "clan" or a "group of families") and it is often employed in the plural. In late Latin gentilis meant "pagan", and the term gentile has equally come to be used as a synonym for "heathen" or "pagan" (Nochri).


Don't offend the Jews, don't offend the heathens. Don't offend anyone.

That pretty much covers things.


I agree with that ehBeth...

Ecclesia does mean "group" but the ecclesia of God is more specific.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:28 pm
So as I see it Moan started a thread asking for input for a project of some kind about "freedom" and the Most Sincere Mr Red has again hijacked another thread to make it about himself.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:32 pm
What dickheaded reason do you have for calling momma angel moan? Is it just because Setanta does it, or do you have some dickheaded reason of your own?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:36 pm
dyslexia wrote:
So as I see it Moan started a thread asking for input for a project of some kind about "freedom" and the Most Sincere Mr Red has again hijacked another thread to make it about himself.


Nice try...

People often accuse others of what they themselves do...

John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Revelations 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Comment:
Now where is your contribution to the understanding of FREEDOM Dys?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:42 pm
I've called her MoAn since the beginning, since she is not my Momma, and I'm personally not comfortable calling any unknown human an angel.

~~~~~

Sooooo, freedom.

My general perspective on freedom has to do with thought - wiki's got a decent take on that (IMNSHO)

Quote:
Freedom of thought is also known as freedom of conscience and refers to the right of an individual to hold a particular thought, belief or viewpoint regardless of those held by others.


Freedom is, for me, mostly between the ears.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jul, 2006 07:47 pm
Dys the more you try to derail the thread the more I will repeat myself.
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