Hoping For Some Input....

Thank you for that response, snood.

I really feel for the soldiers (just young people, like all the rest) who are put in such terrible circumstances ... mostly simply to make a living.

I really think MA should think a little more before posting topics couched in this way. No wonder people get so upset!

The problem for me, in terms of the introductory post to this thread is this:
There are really two different aspects to respond to.

What Does Freedom Mean To You? is one question. (Which probably belongs in the Philosophy forum?)

Then there's this: Many fine men and women have been stationed overseas, ready to fight for this nation and sacrifice all for you and me. The troops are ready to rise when called upon to any operation , most with very little rest. Here at home ,we walk freely, enjoying the best life has to offer. So support our troops and give them your heartfelt thanks. Let them know that you are grateful for protecting your freedom, your safety and all that America stands for. What does freedom mean to you?

This has little to do with the original define freedom question. In fact it defines freedom in a totally unacceptable way to me. This statement is about supporting US troops. I have absolutely no problem in hoping for the safe return of US troops. Their government has put them in a very tough & dangerous situation in Iraq, for (to many of us) highly dubious reasons. They have no choice about being there. It is part of their job.

To talk of their circumstances in terms of "what freedom means to you" seems bizarre to me. Perhaps, if they had the choice, many of the troops would choose to get out of Iraq. Pronto! And who could blame them?

Msolga Wrote:

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The problem for me, in terms of the introductory post to this thread is this:
There are really two different aspects to respond to.

What Does Freedom Mean To You? is one question. (Which probably belongs in the Philosophy forum?)

Then there's this: Many fine men and women have been stationed overseas, ready to fight for this nation and sacrifice all for you and me. The troops are ready to rise when called upon to any operation , most with very little rest. Here at home ,we walk freely, enjoying the best life has to offer. So support our troops and give them your heartfelt thanks. Let them know that you are grateful for protecting your freedom, your safety and all that America stands for. What does freedom mean to you?

This has little to do with the original define freedom question. In fact it defines freedom in a totally unacceptable way to me. This statement is about supporting US troops. I have absolutely no problem in hoping for the safe return of US troops. Their government has put them in a very tough & dangerous situation in Iraq, for (to many of us) highly dubious reasons. They have no choice about being there. It is part of their job.

To talk of their circumstances in terms of "what freedom means to you" seems bizarre to me. Perhaps, if they had the choice, many of the troops would choose to get out of Iraq. Pronto! And who could blame them?

I posted this originally in the General Column, Msolga. I am sure the Moderators will be happy to confirm that. Ossa has already said that she had seen it there originally. Msolga, you did not have to post in this thread at all. You could have just let it go. This would have all been over on the 4the of July if you and others would have just let it go.

Now, I have sent proof to you about this post and what it was intended for. I am sorry that you cannot understand that I told it exactly as it was.

It may seem bizarre to you but it doesn't seem bizarre to everyone. To some, especially those who are United States citizens and live in this country, this is not bizarre, it is the way we feel and we shouldn't be made to feel like we should apologize for it because, for myself, I won't. And yes, there are those totally opposed to it all and that is their right.

Msolga Wrote:

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The problem for me, in terms of the introductory post to this thread is this:
There are really two different aspects to respond to.

What Does Freedom Mean To You? is one question. (Which probably belongs in the Philosophy forum?)

Then there's this: Many fine men and women have been stationed overseas, ready to fight for this nation and sacrifice all for you and me. The troops are ready to rise when called upon to any operation , most with very little rest. Here at home ,we walk freely, enjoying the best life has to offer. So support our troops and give them your heartfelt thanks. Let them know that you are grateful for protecting your freedom, your safety and all that America stands for. What does freedom mean to you?

This has little to do with the original define freedom question. In fact it defines freedom in a totally unacceptable way to me. This statement is about supporting US troops. I have absolutely no problem in hoping for the safe return of US troops. Their government has put them in a very tough & dangerous situation in Iraq, for (to many of us) highly dubious reasons. They have no choice about being there. It is part of their job.

To talk of their circumstances in terms of "what freedom means to you" seems bizarre to me. Perhaps, if they had the choice, many of the troops would choose to get out of Iraq. Pronto! And who could blame them?

I posted this originally in the General Column, Msolga. I am sure the Moderators will be happy to confirm that. Ossa has already said that she had seen it there originally. Msolga, you did not have to post in this thread at all. You could have just let it go. This would have all been over on the 4the of July if you and others would have just let it go.

Now, I have sent proof to you about this post and what it was intended for. I am sorry that you cannot understand that I told it exactly as it was.

It may seem bizarre to you but it doesn't seem bizarre to everyone. To some, especially those who are United States citizens and live in this country, this is not bizarre, it is the way we feel and we shouldn't be made to feel like we should apologize for it because, for myself, I won't. And yes, there are those totally opposed to it all and that is their right.