President Bush: Is He a Liar?

Brandon9000 wrote:

blatham wrote:

advocate

I think you refer to Hezbollah and Lebanon. In Palestine, Israel has had a targeted assassination policy in place for some years now which has successfully eliminated many top leaders.

I was merely pointing to Brandon's simplism and inconsistency in moral argumentes...

Neither of which you've been able to demonstrate. I'll tell you what. If some country tries to assasinate your Prime Minister, you can turn the other cheek, but in my book, you'd have the right to retaliate.

What bullshit. What evidence do you have that there was a credible plot to assassinate Bush 41?

Roxxxanne wrote:

Notice that fewer and fewer members are even responding to Brandon's broken record rhetoric (actually Brandon's drivel doesn't even rach the level of rhetoric.) He has lost any semblance of credibility.

A person whose debating is 100% via insult has no credibility whatsoever.

Brandon9000 wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:

Notice that fewer and fewer members are even responding to Brandon's broken record rhetoric (actually Brandon's drivel doesn't even rach the level of rhetoric.) He has lost any semblance of credibility.

A person whose debating is 100% via insult has no credibility whatsoever.

Brandon, people here on this board are so nice, just insulting you should be taken as a compliment, others elsewhere maybe want you shot. But not us. Have you thought about that ?. Shouldn't you be thanking us ?

blatham wrote:

advocate

I think you refer to Hezbollah and Lebanon. In Palestine, Israel has had a targeted assassination policy in place for some years now which has successfully eliminated many top leaders.

I was merely pointing to Brandon's simplism and inconsistency in moral argumentes...

Neither of which you've been able to demonstrate. I'll tell you what. If some country tries to assasinate your Prime Minister, you can turn the other cheek, but in my book, you'd have the right to retaliate.

freedom4free wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:

Notice that fewer and fewer members are even responding to Brandon's broken record rhetoric (actually Brandon's drivel doesn't even rach the level of rhetoric.) He has lost any semblance of credibility.

A person whose debating is 100% via insult has no credibility whatsoever.

Brandon, people here on this board are so nice, just insulting you should be taken as a compliment, others elsewhere maybe want you shot. But not us. Have you thought about that ?. Shouldn't you be thanking us ?

This is the post of a child. It's also perilously close to a violation of the TOS with a reference to shooting another poster. Even winning a debate by insult and wisecrack is losing. Adults argue their beliefs by a competition of ideas. If they think a poster is not worth debating, then the most they do is ignore him. If I believed what the liberals here believe, I would not be proud of having my views advanced by these methods. Attacking the poster is unworthy and irrelavant, and, if anything, sets your viewpoint back rather than advancing it.

Brandon9000 wrote:

freedom4free wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:

Notice that fewer and fewer members are even responding to Brandon's broken record rhetoric (actually Brandon's drivel doesn't even rach the level of rhetoric.) He has lost any semblance of credibility.

A person whose debating is 100% via insult has no credibility whatsoever.

Brandon, people here on this board are so nice, just insulting you should be taken as a compliment, others elsewhere maybe want you shot. But not us. Have you thought about that ?. Shouldn't you be thanking us ?

This is the post of a child. It's also perilously close to a violation of the TOS with a reference to shooting another poster. Even winning a debate by insult and wisecrack is losing. Adults argue their beliefs by a competition of ideas. If they think a poster is not worth debating, then the most they do is ignore him. If I believed what the liberals here believe, I would not be proud of having my views advanced by these methods. Attacking the poster is unworthy and irrelavant, and, if anything, sets your viewpoint back rather than advancing it.

I haven't seen you compete by presenting any thoughts or ideas. (As you stated yourself on another thread, asking you to demonstrate a thought is the same as asking you to run off on a wild goose chase.) Please point to a post on this thread where you contributed your viewpoint in any meaningful manner on a topic of discussion. The only regular thing I see from you is criticism of other people's viewpoints and demands for proof / citations (which have already been provided in plentitude and which you always ignore).

plainoldme wrote:

An eye for an eye until all the world is blind.

It sounds like you're saying that no matter what someone does to you, you have no right to respond militarily. You're entitled to that opinion, but I certainly don't agree.

I just don't know why anyone even bothers to respond to Brandon's nonsensical drivel.

Brandon9000 wrote:

plainoldme wrote:

An eye for an eye until all the world is blind.

It sounds like you're saying that no matter what someone does to you, you have no right to respond militarily. You're entitled to that opinion, but I certainly don't agree.

Gee, putting words in my mouth.

Consider: children are trained -- or, at least, we flatter ourselves into thinking that we train children in this way -- not to fight on the playground (if their school still allows recess) but nations are not. That means, we expect more from our kids than from our nation-states.

Roxxxanne wrote:

Notice that fewer and fewer members are even responding to Brandon's broken record rhetoric (actually Brandon's drivel doesn't even rach the level of rhetoric.) He has lost any semblance of credibility.

A person whose debating is 100% via insult has no credibility whatsoever.

The flaw in your argument is that in a playground there is a higher authority to appeal to. And even failing such an appeal, this higher authority will almost certainly intervene to prevent too much evil or harm from being done.

Brandon9000 wrote:

The flaw in your argument is that in a playground there is a higher authority to appeal to. And even failing such an appeal, this higher authority will almost certainly intervene to prevent too much evil or harm from being done.

So, one only behaves when one is being watched?

Putting someone in a freezing room for days is torture.

We have gotten off the topic. The thread asks the question is Bush a liar? He lied again when he said that the US does not torture. It was reported that one of the prisoners was forced to remain in a freezing room for days and Bush said the US does not torture. Putting someone in a freezing room for days is torture.