President Bush: Is He a Liar?

Brandon9000 wrote:

Read the opening post. I neither billed nor intended this as a thread I would dominate. Many of these posts I could respond to easily, as I have responded to similar posts on this board for years, but I have described this thread merely as a place where the pros and cons would have a place to reach conclusions, and I won't be lured into abandoning my original conception for it. I may or may not take the pro-Bush position from time to time in here.

Brandon9000 wrote:

It is undeniable that in a debate of any sort, a statement of the form, "I could beat your argument, but I won't lower myself to address it," is ultimately equivalent to saying "I cannot defend my viewpoint." It is simply one of several techniques to pretend to prevail, while not having to go through the troublesome exercise of actually showing the other person's logic to be wrong.

I created this thread as a forum for all board members to debate this issue in a clear manner. There is nothing dishonest or deceitful about that. People who wish to defend their viewpoint may post here. People who don't wish to don't have to. I may from time to time argue my point of view, or I may simply read what others write. If you are able to support your point of view and wish to, nothing is stopping you.

Don't lower yourself Brandon. There is nothing to defend, not while Bush has such a clear plan for victory in Iraq after being forced to invade because of Al Qaeda.

Don't lower yourself Brandon. There is nothing to defend, not while Bush has such a clear plan for victory in Iraq after being forced to invade because of Al Qaeda.

The President has often been accused of lying by his political opponents. I am starting this thread so that his opponents can try to demonstrate that the accusation is true, and his supporters can try to show that it's false.

What I ask is that anyone who wishes to show that he does lie state in each post:

1. A single quotation of the President's which is a lie
2. A bit of evidence, or an argument to demonstrate that it's a lie.

I request, though, that no one simply post a huge list of vague accusations of lying without evidence, or a link to such. Use your own words, not someone else's, and please limit yourself to one lie per post, so that the matter can be discussed in an orderly way.

Brandon forgot his OCD meds again (emphasis on the O).

Synonymph wrote:

Brandon forgot his OCD meds again (emphasis on the O).

Everyone, I know this is going to be really difficult to do, but you should stop feeding into his attempts to get attention.

It's not like he's contributing anything of value to this forum. All of his posts are blatant attempts to obfuscate, annoy, misdirect or harass. I don't think I've read a single post from him that has been of any value. Real conversations get hijacked and threads become a forum for back and forth insults or petty arguments. I've been around for a bit, and I've never seen it this bad.

Unfortunately, A2K doesn't have an "ignore" feature, so we have to make do. It may be fun to pick on the stupid people, but remember, all it does is encourage them to continue with their nonsense and feed into their ego. Don't give him the satisfaction.

The only thing I could think was "..and YOUR posts add what exactly?"

Synonymph wrote:

Brandon forgot his OCD meds again (emphasis on the O).

Everyone, I know this is going to be really difficult to do, but you should stop feeding into his attempts to get attention.

It's not like he's contributing anything of value to this forum. All of his posts are blatant attempts to obfuscate, annoy, misdirect or harass. I don't think I've read a single post from him that has been of any value. Real conversations get hijacked and threads become a forum for back and forth insults or petty arguments. I've been around for a bit, and I've never seen it this bad.

Unfortunately, A2K doesn't have an "ignore" feature, so we have to make do. It may be fun to pick on the stupid people, but remember, all it does is encourage them to continue with their nonsense and feed into their ego. Don't give him the satisfaction.