President Bush: Is He a Liar?

plainoldme wrote:

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Also, I was out all day yesterday but when I came home, my son told me that bush "dropped the f-bomb at the G8." I asked whether he had used the four letter word for fornication and my son said yes. What a classy guy!

Your son must have been reading dailykos or truthout, or some other outfit with a loose grasp of the facts.

THis is from a new post by c.i. and addresses whether or not my son heard the news about bush from truthout or not (he listens to a UHF station's news broadcast):

It did not take an awkwardly open microphone to display the huge gap between the summit meeting's communiqués and political reality. The entire weekend was an ill-disguised exercise in evasion on the major issues. The jet fuel wasted transporting everyone to St. Petersburg probably outweighed any positive contributions to global energy security.

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It was bush's mike that was 'awkwardly open."

plainoldme, That would make sense, but Bush is anything but a republican. Bush doesn't understand nor supports anything of republican values. Go figure why so many still supports this moron.

tico said

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You've managed to convince yourself that Hughes is a liar .... congratulations. (And, BTW, I'm not sure if I could care any less about this than I do at the moment -- which I'm sure you will find as another flaw in my character.) But you should not give yourself points in "personal integrity" as a consequence. I do not share your predilection towards assuming someone is a liar based solely on the leveling of a charge, and the presence of a motivation to lie. I did not do it to Clinton, I have not done it to Bush, and I see no reason to do it to Hughes. But the fact that you've cast aspersions on my character for not doing so says more about yours than mine, IMO.

Of course, it isn't merely the "leveling of a charge". Tucker Carlson's witnessing of the matter puts it in quite another category. And rather obviously, one of them is lying so motive is important.

Considering rules of evidence, the principles and rationale behind the need for them and the civil or justice consequences for ignoring them, it seems rather unbalanced that you'd need a trial by jury in this case to give yourself licence to say she lied (with what real consequence for anyone?) but at the same time you are quite happy to see most of those principles and rationales eviscerated in another sphere where the consequences have reached as far as torture and death.

Yes, that is an integrity, justice, truth and character issue. I like you. To see you go so far off the rails baffles me entirely.

Ticomaya wrote:

plainoldme wrote:

Also, I was out all day yesterday but when I came home, my son told me that bush "dropped the f-bomb at the G8." I asked whether he had used the four letter word for fornication and my son said yes. What a classy guy!

Your son must have been reading dailykos or truthout, or some other outfit with a loose grasp of the facts.

THis is from a new post by c.i. and addresses whether or not my son heard the news about bush from truthout or not (he listens to a UHF station's news broadcast):

It did not take an awkwardly open microphone to display the huge gap between the summit meeting's communiqués and political reality. The entire weekend was an ill-disguised exercise in evasion on the major issues. The jet fuel wasted transporting everyone to St. Petersburg probably outweighed any positive contributions to global energy security.

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It was bush's mike that was 'awkwardly open."

Do you know how to save a drowning lawyer?

Take your foot off his head.

Just in case mm and his buddies can read the graph, it says this country is headed in the wrong direction by a majority of over 60 percent.

mm and his buddies must be in the 30 percent; it seems some are doing okay, and fxxx the rest.

MM -- Actually, you can say that a majority of the people once thought the world was flat, but that does not make it true.

c.i. -- Tico is an attorney?!

MM -- Actually, you can say that a majority of the people once thought the world was flat, but that does not make it true.

plainoldme wrote:

MM -- Actually, you can say that a majority of the people once thought the world was flat, but that does not make it true.

According to CI it does,since he believes the majority is correct about what the truth is.