Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

Now now cjhsa. Yes, gun control is fascist BS (government arresting more control etc) and yes we know that it results in only criminals having guns. But saying people can bring guns into a public building is too extreme and I find it unreasonable. They took the guns off the Britts and the Aussies - all it did was spoil it for those who like to shoot for sport. Funny that its government policy in Switzerland for everyone to own an assault rifle and yet hey dont go butchering each other. Oh well.

Anyhoo, this thread is about race issues and immigration into Britain. And Wolf, having lived in Brittain for 10 years its "culture" is still very much the same. When back on buisiness a year ago and, its a real unpleasant place.


Iceland, didnt think much before you threw out that communist drivel post did you.
Theres lots of people here who are quite happy to sit back and have a good blah-blah about how they feel about the matter - based on what they were told as kids in school or what their told by the media. But THEY DONT LIVE THERE, and they dont have the right to inflict their crap words on the people who's country is going to sh~t.

What kind of mumbo jumbo is this whole idea of people being free to enter our country and benifit from it? (a communist one?) NO THEY DONT. Oh OK then everyones free to come to Australia. Next day when everyone from their miserably countries have flooded our country to benefit from how nice it is, and made us a minority people in the process, we realise what a stupid bunch of twats we were when our country crumbles to a hell hole. We came here and developed this country with our centurys of toil, why should other people get it for free?

That's a great idea! We'll deport all the illegals to Australia (after we arm them first).

Hmmm. Anyone in any of the shall issue states with a CCW can carry a firearm into just about any public building, such as the grocery store. But not government offices.

RaceDriver

I'm really interested in what makes Britain an "unpleasant place". It's the country I have lived in for most of my life and I love it.

We probably have different means of assessing the pleasantness of a place but I've heard very few people ever tell me this before and I'm genuinely intrigued.

Where are you from and with what do you compare the UK in reaching this view?

I have NEVER felt the need to have a weapon while in the UK or any other European country and find it difficult to see why US citizens are so keen to continue with their own individual arms races, but that's not the subject of this topic. We're talking about race and immigration.

KP

Ceili and kitchenpete, Long time no see! What a pleasure to run into you people again - even on this topic.

Personally, I have no patience or tolerance for any kind of discrimination or bigotry. They are all borne of ignorance.

The people who could identify certain cultures or races of people as the offenders of the peace are ignorant of history; no matter the country, race and/or religion. They/we are all guilty of crimes against humanity.

Once again, we are all humans. Learn to live peacefully, but with racial/cultural bigots abound in most societies, we're surely headed for more of the same.

The problem as I see it is not immigration and racism, its militant Islamism. There are some very dangerous people out there, people who in the past I just laughed at. But they are serious. And they have Allah on their side who will reward them accordingly. It was Islamists responsible for 9/11, the Madrid and London train bombings, and countless other acts of terrorism. And it was American and British secret services who trained them, armed them, indoctrinated them and sent them off to kill Russians in the 1980s. And didnt they do well?

Steve, It's not all Muslims nor Arabs; as is true of any societal groups that have long histories of violence based on ignorance.

When we look at what Bushco and Blair has done in Iraq; the killing of innocent Iraqis by the thousands upon thousands (for justifications long ago lost and disproved), and the subsequent chaos created therefrom, we need to be careful who we identify as the real terrorists.

But it's pretty easy to spot the traitors...you know the ones...the ones who stand up and call the president a terrorist when we're at war with terrorists.

It's ethnocentrism, the prejudice, bigotry and chauvinism is along the lines of ethnicity in general, which does include racism, but not necessarily.

You say you're not racist, but your arguments are based, in part, on racist rationalizations such as "nationhood" being tied in with notions of "appropriateness" and "compatibility" with "race."

We are nations built on laws. For asking that those laws be enforced, we are being called racists.

I take extreme exception to that.

May I make this serious observation? The immigration problem has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with economics.

Guns and butter. (economic)

Immigrants, (legal or not) work for much less than American workers. (economics)

immigration
just for the fun of it i opened up my 30 year old hammond world atlas .
i'm looking at some of the migration patterns throughout the (recent) history of the world .
what do i see ?
the goths moving from northern europe into epirus (sparta).
the vandals moving from central europe to numidia(africa).
the muslims moving towards vienna .
the "europeans" moving to africa , the americas , asia and australia .
all of that took place during the last 1,500 plus years - i could also include alexander the great moving into asia and ceasar occupying much of central and northern europe somewhat earlier.
of course , those movements caused a great deal of death and destruction , but they also resulted in many new nations being formed , arts and sciences being cross-fertilized and enriched .
was the total outcome good or bad for the human race as a whole ?
i certainly don't know , but i know that there was nothing to stop those major migrations in the end .
so when there is talk of "illigal" immigration and "loss of traditional values" , i can't help but smile . in the history of the world these are "non-events" imo .
(give me an invasion of some nasty vandals and goths anyday ; that should be fun and inject some fresh blood into our tired bloodstream).
hbg

hbg, It wasn't too long ago when Japanese Americans couldn't buy land in this country. We now have many cultures and races we call "family." Isn't progress wonderful?

immigration
right you are , c.i. !
it is interesting to note the in the early 1900's some employers in toronto/canada posted signs : "english need not apply" . if you were scottish , you'd be accepted ! funny , funny !?!?! considering that toronto was considered the capital of "WASP" country .
i remember that when i started working in canada in the mid-fifties , the employment questionnaire asked the applicant to state his/her religion . my application always had a "blank" space !
and here we are 50 years later , feeling like true "canajuns" - and , of course , we can tell all the other citizens of the world how to behave !!!
must break out into a chorus of : "oh , canada ... ... " (i do know the first two words - i think). live and let live ! hbg

There are some very sick puppies here with their heads firmly stuck in the sand (I'm being very polite).

It's very hard to discuss a topic with people who simply are in denial of Britain having been swamped by immigrants whose culture and race cut them out to be forever aliens living amongst the indigenous population as a distinct and separate demographic entity... turning British society into at least four major 'us-and-them' tribal groupings where once it was a case of identifiably 'English' cohesive unity.

We have kitchenpete here who feels really, really privileged and absolutely delighted that every time he returns home to Britain from Prague it takes him roughly an hour-and-a-half before he can espy anyone even remotely resembling a fellow-native Englishman despite this being his British homeland. How do you argue with a mentality which thrives upon immigrant predominance as opposed to loyalty for ones own people... ?

Those of the airport staff who aren't wearing turbans are wearing flowing caftans instead - or hijabs... and the usual mob of lazy-eyed Pakis and Arabs are lounging around out there in the taxi ranks waiting to take kitchenpete into London like a visiting tourist to Calcutta.

It is not possible for me to have a coherent discussion about the loss of someone's nationhood when that person's whole psychology has long-since been propagandised away from feeling any sense of defensive loyalty or identity with his father's generation and his identity as an indigenous Englishman.

A steady diet of Multiculturalist propaganda in the classrooms across the length and breadth of the British Isles for the past 40-years has ensured a compliant and docile acceptance that several million immigrant cultural and racial aliens have now taken up residence as cohabitors in the homeland of the British people.

You turkeys have been royally shafted, hijacked and mugged in your own homeland by 40-years of inappropriate cultural and racial immigration influx - but you've been so anaesthetised by decades of 'progressive' socio-ideological gobbledegook being fed you by politicians and school teachers that you no longer feel any sense of protective loyalty for your British identity.

Trust me, when my mob eventually ascends to power heads will roll - and in every case they will only be the quisling Englishmen - NOT the foreigners who are now lodged amongst you as a colonialist occupation.

The English public are a classic example of a people who remained calm and complacent just like the frog in the slowly-heated water who didn't know it was cooking until the water began to boil.

That's today's Englishman for you - a victim of immigrant gradualism where a black here and a Muslim there didn't alarm him... until 40-years later he looks up from his lager and discovers that a full 2-million Muslims are now resident in the London area alone - with a couple score of British cities now home to yardie gangs and a criminal culture of Muslim youths who have been carefully schooled from birth to maintain a 'bad attitude' towards the infidel indigenous Brit.

The reaction here to me is ample evidence of a British people who have been thoroughly intimidated into parroting all the 'correct' mantras about the social benefits of 'diversity' - and how much better off are the English now that they are obliged to share their homeland with the black brotherhood and a burgeoning population of utterly incompatible Muslims.

We now have the national anthem in Spanish.

That's my last post on this subject. I'm tired of expending time and effort to present certain viewpoints only to be met with borderline retards posting up lazy one-liners.

Apart from a couple of posters here there simply isn't the level of education or intellect to keep me detained here any longer. It really is a case of pearl before swine.

Open House

Haha, thats about a dumb a thing as ive heard yet. You 100% intolerance of discrimination is a result of your sh~te education as a kid.
Lol, i get the picture of some some silly little man who challenges everyones veiwpoint as ignorant:
"The world is round".
"Hehehe, you think the world is round, hehehe, what ignorance"

All you people do is pick labels and then apply them to intelligent people who know what they are talking about, as though they are some kind of a defence. Well ill repeat my label, your all communists. Your "everyones equal, there should be no war, no discrimination" BS is all very nice, but the world doesnt work that way. Never has, never will. Your "logic" if it can be described as that will never change peoples underlying nature to keep their identity and their culture.

Ill echo herberts, this will be my last post. Anything rebuting this post will just be label crap anyway. Borderline retards is a bit too conservative mind. Id say if their IQs were even double digits id be suprised.

Thanks for proving my point.