Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

I think that this speech, by Trevor Phillips, hits the nail on the head somewhat.

Personally, I like the idea that EU members can travel and work where they like within the EU.
'Twas only a few days ago that I was listening to Radio 2, where they were chatting to Polish immigrants who were working in London. Apparently, there are now large numbers of skilled building workers coming over from Poland, and working in London where they can earn five times the money that is on offer at home.
English plumbers were apparently up in arms that Poles were coming in and undercutting them on quotes. These Brit plumbers could no longer demand £50 an hour on a take it or leave it basis. Well, if I had the choice of paying £50 or £20 an hour for someone to ram a brush up my bunghole, I know which one I would choose.

If someone wants to come here and work for their living, is willing to assimilate to a certain degree and lives a law abiding life style, I can't see the problem. It is the very small number that see Britain as a very good means of receiving a free ride that get up my nose, and unfortunately these are the only category of immigrant that seems to grab the headlines, along with those that have a hidden agenda who only come here to cause trouble of some sort.


On the whole, I say good luck to "good guy" immigrants.

Watching and waiting. I think I agree with you, McTag, on the benefits of multiculturalism and the need to deal with "different" others in an inclusive rather than exclusive manner.

KP

Oh, I forgot to enter the Trevor Phillips speech.

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You are obviously a prime example of someone who has had all sense of nationalist and patriotic loyalty laundered out of him by having passed through a school system which stigmatised those qualities as being 'racist' and 'bigoted' and 'small-minded'.

You and your ilk are the end product of a political and educational system which over the past 40-years has taught the British public that they have no right to a national homeland which is based upon British identity and British cultural heritage.

And there is absolutely no point in trying to debate the issue of national loyalty and the preservation of national identity with people who have been ideologically indoctrinated into believing their homeland is an Open House for any people to come in and set up their own communal identity.

I sincerely hope that among these rightwing parties that you mention a leader will eventually emerge who will have the charisma, and the appeal, and the intelligence, and the patriotism which will cause the average Englishman to rally to his cause for ridding Britain of its 'ethnic communities' and its immigrant colonialists and its Muslims.

My greatest regret is that I will not live long enough to witness this belated and happy event.

Eh? Right wing parties? Wha?

To whom are you pointing your accusing digit, herberts?

This should be good.

Herberts - on what grounds do you believe that a land mass (the British Isles in this case) should be inhabited by and governed for the benefit of a particular race/religion/cultural group?

For myself, I have seen huge benefits to the UK in having a relatively open immigration policy and it makes me feel "at home" to arrive at Heathrow and see British people of different colours, beliefs and traditions.

It is one of the things I find strange about living in Prague (where I have only been since January) is that the people are of similar racial and cultural origin. In fact the way they treat "gypsies" (the Roma people) here is something I find quite difficult to deal with.

If you think that all those who disagree with your perspective have been brain-washed into their views by a set of people intent on a strongly PC agenda, you are simply wrong.

If ever the kind of leader you mention would look like generating a decent following in Britain, I would use all my powers to stop that rise. I would consider it to be equivalent acting against Hitler or Stalin - the first names which spring to mind in such a discussion.

Out of interest, do you identify yourself as a neo-Nazi?

KP

Steve, I had a very similar experience in Hungary. It was common to hear everyday conversation about how their Gypsy population should be drummed out of the country......and some of these people who were in agreement were teachers!

Quite an awful eye opener.

Lord Ellpus...

.... And with those Famous Last Words he signed away his national birthright to immigrant colonialists who in their little finger have more respect and more loyalty for their foreign national identity than do a score of Englishmen put together.

You are selling out your national heritage for a few cheap discounts from a burgeoning immigrant and refugees industry which has no intentions of identifying as 'English'.

You've been sucker-punched by 40-years of enforced immigration upon your British homeland with a people not of your race and not of your religion - and who couldn't give a flying-stuff for England or the English beyond their next pay-packet or their next dole cheque.

'Multiculturalism' is nothing more than a traitorous capitulation to immigrant cultural ghettoism.

What car do you drive, Herby? Ever been to an Indian Restaurant?

Ever had your life saved by an Asian Doctor? (I have)

Ever tried to get an English plumber on a Bank holiday?

Is every item of your wardrobe made by good, white English people?

Did you cheer Nasser Hussein on when he took the field? Or boo?

Do you think that Ledley King/Sol Campbell et al feel proud to wear an England shirt?

Methinks SOMEONE has been sucker punched in the past, but I don't think that it is me.

Talking of speeches, Lord Ellpus - you might find it a salutary exercise if you were to cast your eye over this timeless little gem which has come back to haunt the British people.

Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech

You Englanders have been so pussy-whipped with 40-years of 'Multicultural Britain' propagandist bullsh*t that you have all been schooled into becoming the instrument of your own national destruction as a unified people of British identity and heritage.

Enoch Powell, eh? Hmmm.

If you read Trevor Phillip's speech, you would see that he is against multiculturalism.
Try reading it.


What do you see as the way ahead then, Herberts? What do you feel should be done?

I think I know who you'll be voting for, mein Herr.

I am an Englishman living in Australia - and that's why I correctly use the term 'Englander' to identify the UK-dwelling Englishman as distinct from the ex-patriate.

herberts

I'd appreciate an answer on how you came to hold the views you do.

I'd also be interested to know whether you consider yourself an immigrant in Australia who should be sent home.

"What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander"

KP

Lord Ellpus...





Oh, pur-leez... ! You're surely not trying to serve me up your version of "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!"... ?

How utterly sickening.

God! You people have all turned to water haven't you?! You're all happy to become tenants in your own homeland to immigrant landlords!

Do you think that Asian doctor who saved your life wants his daughter to marry a white Anglo-Saxon Christian from Barnsley... ?

Do you believe all those Indian restaurant owners in the UK are carefully instructing their UK-born offspring to think of themselves as 'English'... ?

Do you really believe the likes of Nasser Hussein who steps onto the field identifies himself as an 'Englishman' - instead of as a 'proud' representative of his particular immigrant tribal group... ?

Like the rest of them you need a reality check Lord Ellpus.

kitchenpete - your very question itself is very revealing of just how far and how successfully the propagandists have over the years, very gradually, managed to dissociate you from any such idea that you should feel a protective and defensive patriotic loyalty for your own British cultural identity in your own homeland.

You ask me where I learnt to hold to the views that I do - and the answer is sublimely simple: I am of that generation which existed before the socialists in their many guises began teaching the British public that their national homeland should no longer be regarded as the exclusive province of the British people - but indeed, should instead be regarded as an immigrant colonial destination for every Sambo, Gunga Din and Mustafa who felt like improving his economic circumstance by moving to the British Isles.

Ask anyone of the pre-1960's era and you will find that a great many still adhere to the notion of Britain being a sovereign territory whose immigration policy should restrict itself to only those people of a racial and cultural background which are compatible and will resemble the indigenous Britisher within the space of only a generation or two.

Herberts one to speak, living in a country that isn't "his own". Name me one thing that is supposedly English I can tell you how English it really is.

Prince Phillip? Supposedly Greek, yet I've heard that he originated from Germany. Heck, quite a lot of the Royal Family has German blood and you'll find that a lot of nobles have French ancestory.

The Crown Jewels never originated from England, obviously.

More than 95% of the people who call themselves English are, in fact, descended from foreign immigrants.

The English Sunday roast is in fact a Roman invention. If the Romans hadn't invaded England, we could still be eating a lumpy soup-like slop cooked in one pot.

Herbert, stay over there. I don't want your ilk over here. We've got enough of your sort in the form of the BNP, whom I pray will one day disappear to the gutter like it should do.

Immigrants founded our country and they shall forever contribute to it. The right wing propaganda of a racial British national pride is complete BS. I will be proud of our country, proud of it and the fact that the likes of your ilk (which I think you'll find is a Scottish word, not English) are a minority that will never get to put your racist policies into effect.

i just don't get nationalism, i'm canadian by right of birth, but basically consider myself to be a human being first and foremost