Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

As Spendius says, George, you know how to "warm" things.

This time it's only my heart that you are warming.

Thanks for that.

And thank you. That's good enough for me.

i have similar problems. statistics, probability theory and quantum mechanics do nothing for me in the betting shop either.

Forzza Azzuri....sorry Allez les Bleues...i dunno its all foreign nonsense to me

shame about Fred Titmus eh?

Hey Francis

Good to see you back on an even keel

Dont let things get to you ... but it happens to all of us at times

Certainly me

Anyway La France Champions de le Monde n'est pas?

did really say Titmus?

TRUEMAN

Titmus lost some toes.

Fiery Fred lost the battle.

True. Actually Steve is much more irritable than Francis, and certainly more than me!

France won, I'm in a good mood.

But it seems we have an irritability constest here

As I read through this thread, I encountered this piece of "glop" written by the Professor, Nimh, who obviously knows nothing about racism, what racism really is, how many African-Americans are jailed in the USA, the reasons they are incarcerated and the enormous pressure from the left to exculpate those who should really be incarcerated.



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Judging on the statistics that show that in general, blacks are more likely to be sentenced to prison time, and likely to be sentenced to a longer prison time, than whites when committing the same crime (talking America, I dont know how it is in Britain or Holland but I suppose it's the same), you could presuppose that the black man would actually be punished more harshly.

On the other hand, you're right: in the case of the black man, there would probably be some voices heard in public space (media, fringe politics) that would argue that the act of the black man was somehow historically explainable, whereas noone would really dare try to argue any contextualisation of the white supremacist's act in public.

Perhaps the lesson in this hypothetical scenario would be that the latter serves to somewhat balance the former out - and exists because of the former. I believe - I may be considered naive for it - that voices that tend to apologize for black wrongs would die out as soon as blacks dont actually face a disadvantage anymore. Those who say that they already don't, would seem to ignore, for example, the stats on sentencing.


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Since he is in Europe, Mr. Nimh has probably never read the following:

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"There is nothing more painful for me that to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start to think about robbery and then see it's somebody white and feel relieved"

Mr. Nimh probably does not know that the author of that quote was the Premier African-American--Jesse Jackson.

Mr. Nimh probably does not know that according to FBI statistics Crime in the United States summarized in the US Bureau of the Census, Blacks who make up 12 percent of the Population comprise 39 % of those arrested for aggravated assault, 42 percent of those arrested for weapons possession, 43 percent of those arrested for rape, 55 percent of those arrested for murder and 61 percent of those arrested for robbery.

What Mr. Nimh does not know is that there is certainly no "dejure" racism in the USA and very little overt "defacto" racism.

His outlook is again the outlook of the superior Europeans who will do anything, tell any lie, to assuage their envy of the USA and its glories.

Mr. Nimh's picture of the US as a racist society is absurdly twisted. According to many Social Scientists, since the late 1960's African-Americans are increasingly "presented as regulators of society in positions such as teachers and law enforcers" Today television series and films self-consciously depict blacks in countersterotypcial roles: as physicans, scientists, supervisors, purveyors of wisdom and solvers of impossible movie dilemmas"

Why won't Mr. Nimh get it straight?????

Several

Numbers and where, Walter :wink:

I'm retreating "to my usually 'restrained' position" now, too :wink:

Err....hello?

Bernard, you are well bonkers.

I am totally relaxed about this.

good expression McT.

Bernard why do you address nimh as Mr Nimh, when as you know he's actually Professor nimh?

So, are you trying to imitate us?

Yep - knew that..


Yep - knew that.. (well, the substance of it; not the exact numbers, for which thanks.)


Noting that for this claim, you do not bring any numbers or proof..


Know that, but irrelevant to my post.

And may I take this opportunity to welcome everyone back to our regularly scheduled program... <smiles>

whew!

What really makes me irritable is Walter . . . he won't keep a promise not to speak English, German or French . . . darned ol' Dutchman . . .