Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

The erudite Mr. Setanta, obvioulsy miffed at me, so angry that he descends to a child's response--Do you actually read the **** you post before you hit the submit button.

I have three observations for the learned Mr. Setanta.

l. A preoccupation with "****" in all of its forms indicates a neurotic obsession with coprophilia. I respectfully suggest that Mr. Setanta obtain some help with that obsession.

2. I am ready to receive instruction from Mr. Setanta. I have read his rambling essays and have found parts of them to be entertaining and true. However, as has been pointed out by other worthies, such as GeorgeOb1, Finn, and the ever astute Asherman, Mr. Setanta has the distressing habit of leaning to the far left.

I am eager to discover just why my post is, as Mr. Setanta puts it in his own inimitable scholarly way--"****"--but I am afraid that he will not instruct me. I know why he will not. I have eviscerated him and his fellow poster Mr. Kuvasz several times. Just recently, I destroyed Mr. Kuvasz on a "global warming" thread, which, I was surprised to find, the learned Mr. Setanta did not even poke one inch of his nose into.

So, Mr. Setana, are you ready to instruct me? I must, however, insist that if you do, I need links and documentation. I wouldn't believe anything you told me on the topic of homogeneity vs. heterogeneity unless it was buttressed by the statement of people who are experts.

PS- Mr. Setanta-- Try "fecal matter" next time. It is in keeping with your erudite image.

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Your idiocy, and obsession with a puerile sneer on a contention of erudition which arises from your pique, and not any statements of mine, do not obscure the incredibly stupid error embodied in the post which i quoted. You wrote: The whole point of this thread---made by anonymouse---is that heterogenous societies have more difficulties of all types than heterogeneous societies. That is an irrefutable point.

I can think of few points more amenable to refutation than to say that a heterogenous society has more difficulties of all types than a heterogenous society. This is the logical equivalent of saying that people as stupid as Bernard have more difficulties of all types than do people as stupid as Bernard.

I reiterate my question: Do you read the sh!t you write before you hit the submit button?

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The Bush people are just flat out loony. I don't see them representative of any ideology that I recognize except maybe fashism.

I wish A2K would attract some sound reasonable right-wing conservatives. But I suppose everybody is considered "Liberal" from where the status quo sits now. I actually sympathise with conservative ideals now. I have a new appreciation for them and have become more patreotic throught this whole ordeal.

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You ask, Mr. Sentana--Do I read the "sh!t" I write before I push the sumbit button?

I ask, Mr. Sentana--Do you read the thread in which I eviscerated you and Mr. Kuvasz on Global Warming?

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Amigo wrote:

The Bush people are just flat out loony. I don't see them representative of any ideology that I recognize except maybe fashism.

I think W is quite fashionable, but not a slave to fashion.

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BernardR wrote:

You ask, Mr. Sentana--Do I read the "sh!t" I write before I push the sumbit button?

I ask, Mr. Sentana--Do you read the thread in which I eviscerated you and Mr. Kuvasz on Global Warming?

BernardR

I have not had the experience of your postings on other threads. I have, however, been a reader and/or participant in many threads on which Setanta has posted.

Given the number of postings you have made, you have clearly been active. Whether Setanta or any other member of this forum decides to participate in a thread is entirely up to the individual.

Your characterisation of your "winning" an argument on another thread has absolutely no bearing on this one, except that it leads me to interpret that your character tends to win/lose - black/white - good/bad judgements.

Along with many other posters on this forum, I consider that reasoned debate should not necessarily be seeking a simple answer. We are hear to read the views of others and to increase our understanding of matters which may not have any clear goal, answer or outcome.

In doing so, we improve our ability to engage in rational debate and to use theories, facts and the likelihood of others understandings of these to prepare ourselves for further debate.

Yes, Setanta can sometimes be a bit cranky and give some fairly cutting responses but a more confident response from you might have been "Oops, I made an error - that should have read...heterogeneous...homogeneous". Unfortunately you compounded your simple error of tying with a much greater indication of weakness to criticism, a characteristic which others may exploit.

I hope you take this as Constructive criticism, which is the manner in which it is intended.

KP

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BernardR wrote:

You ask, Mr. Sentana--Do I read the "sh!t" I write before I push the sumbit button?

I ask, Mr. Sentana--Do you read the thread in which I eviscerated you and Mr. Kuvasz on Global Warming?

BernardR

I have not had the experience of your postings on other threads. I have, however, been a reader and/or participant in many threads on which Setanta has posted.

Given the number of postings you have made, you have clearly been active. Whether Setanta or any other member of this forum decides to participate in a thread, or leave it having started participation, is entirely up to the individual.

Your characterisation of your "winning" an argument on another thread has absolutely no bearing on this one, except that it leads me to interpret that your character tends to win/lose - black/white - good/bad judgements.

Along with many other posters on this forum, I consider that reasoned debate should not necessarily be seeking a simple answer. We are here to read the views of others and to increase our understanding of matters which may not have any clear goal, answer or outcome.

In doing so, we improve our ability to engage in rational debate and to use theories, facts and the likelihood of others understandings of these to prepare ourselves for further debate.

Yes, Setanta can sometimes be a bit cranky and give some fairly cutting responses but a more confident response from you might have been "Oops, I made an error - that should have read...heterogeneous...homogeneous". Unfortunately you compounded your simple error of tying with a much greater indication of weakness to criticism, a characteristic which others may exploit.

I hope you take this as Constructive criticism, which is the manner in which it is intended.

KP

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BernardR wrote:

You ask, Mr. Sentana--Do I read the "sh!t" I write before I push the sumbit button?

I ask, Mr. Sentana--Do you read the thread in which I eviscerated you and Mr. Kuvasz on Global Warming?

As i haven't contributed to any global warming threads, you are in lala land once again.

You wrote that HETEROGENOUS societies have more difficulties of all kinds than HETEROGENOUS societies. (I guess i need to shout, as you like to do, in order to bring to your attention the idiocy you perpetrated earlier).

Therefore, i ask you: do you read the sh!t you write before you hit the submit button.

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The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press carried out a large-scale attitudinal survey this Spring, titled,"The Great Divide: How Westerners and Muslims View Each Other".

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/440/pewpoll7kr.png

http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/253.pdf

Interesting to note that not one Muslim population polled believes that Arabs carried out the attacks of September 11, 2001 on America.

They prefer to believe it was a a hoax perpetrated by the American government, Israel, or some other agency.

Daniel Pipes has some interesting comments regarding this poll, including:

Quote:

British and Nigerian Muslims are most alienated: Britain stands out as a paradoxical country. Non-Muslims there have strikingly more favorable views of Islam and Muslims than elsewhere in the West; for example, only 32% of the British sample view Muslims as violent, significantly less than their counterparts in France (41%), Germany (52%), or Spain (60%). In the Muhammad cartoon dispute, Britons showed more sympathy for the Muslim outlook than did other Europeans. More broadly, Britons blame Muslims less for the poor state of Western-Muslim relations.

But British Muslims return the favor with the most malign anti-Western attitudes found in Europe. Many more of them regard Westerners as violent, greedy, immoral, and arrogant than do their counterparts in France, Germany, and Spain. In addition, whether asked about their attitudes toward Jews, responsibility for September 11, or the place of women in Western societies, their views are notably more extreme.

The situation in Britain reflects the "Londonistan" phenomenon, whereby Britons preemptively cringe and Muslims respond to this weakness with aggression.

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Clearly I didn't mean to post twice - the second was supposed to replace the first, as...Oops...I wrote "hear" instead of "here" by mistake.

See? It happens to all of us!

KP

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SierraSong wrote:

Interesting to note that not one Muslim population polled believes that Arabs carried out the attacks of September 11, 2001 on America.

They prefer to believe it was a a hoax perpetrated by the American government, Israel, or some other agency.

Living under a sheet can do that to you.

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Or, it could be that the 'appeasement' policies of the Brits (both public and private sectors) are partly responsible.

A few months ago there was a newspaper report of a British airline insisting their flight attendants and airline crews remove all religious symbols (i.e. crucifixes, St. Christopher medals, etc.) when flying into Middle Eastern countries. Not only that, the flight attendants were told to cover themselves in the long abaya robes that Saudi women have to wear, so as not to 'offend'.

I'm beginning to understand why Muslims despise Europeans.

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SierraSong wrote:

Or, it could be that the 'appeasement' policies of the Brits (both public and private sectors) are partly responsible.

A few months ago there was a newspaper report of a British airline insisting their flight attendants and airline crews remove all religious symbols (i.e. crucifixes, St. Christopher medals, etc.) when flying into Middle Eastern countries. Not only that, the flight attendants were told to cover themselves in the long abaya robes that Saudi women have to wear, so as not to 'offend'.

I'm beginning to understand why Muslims despise Europeans.

On the other hand, Americans have a reputation for offending the locals wherever they go - can't win, I'd say! :wink:

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Mr.Kitchen Pete--

I read your post. It is a good one about interaction on these threads and I endorse it. Howeer, i must repeat that anyone who posts and is so bereft of vocabulary to utilize the word sh!t as a response is either a hapless adolescent or an elderly person who is veering into dementia.

Mr. Setanta does not have the integrity to realize that when he uses gutter language, he receives a response commensurate to it( a response which is normally not used)--mainly, that he must be chafing from previous encounters where I have totally destroyed his theses.

But, thank you for your kind intercession, Mr. Kitchen Pete

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KP is correct in that you have a puerile obsession with the thought that you have "won." You have never, and will never "destroy" any thesis of mine. You have consistently demonstrated that you are unable to follow the thread of a conversation, much less understand and refute anyone's thesis. As for constructing your own thesis, your heterogenous/heterogenous crap above demonstrates precisely what i was pointing out--that you don't even bother to read you own work, to check it before you hit the submit button.

That is why, Italgato, Massagato, Chiczaria, Mortkat, Bernard, you are the object of the contempt and derision of so many people here, and in fact, that is why people even start threads to ridicule you. But i have no doubt that you will sail along in your fantasy world, inalterably convinced of the excellence of your adventure. Either you've got wonderful drugs, or the natural chemical imbalance of your metabolism is such that you serve up the tripe with which you so regularly regale us, convinced that it represents trenchant debate. You never fail to entertain, at least . . .

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Yes, Mr. Setanta? Tell that to Ticomaya, Okie, George Ob1, Finn or Asherman. Your diatribe means nothing to me. When you again post one of your unlinked posts,I will pick out the erroneous garbage and show those people above( not the morons on the left) just how senile your writing has become!!!

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As i've said, I/M/C/M/B--you never fail to entertain.

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Yes, Mr. Setanta? Tell that to Ticomaya, Okie, George Ob1, Finn or Asherman. Your diatribe means nothing to me. When you again post one of your unlinked posts,I will pick out the erroneous garbage and show those people above( not the morons on the left) just how senile your writing has become!!!

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Speaking of senility . . . you've begun to repeat yourself. Say, I/M/M/C/B, tell us again how racism is the sin from which all else flows in facism.

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Hey, I/M/M/C/B, explain to again how the reduction in state hospital beds from 550,000 to 90,000 in the period 1955-73 is the vault of activist federal judges.

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