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Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 08:33 pm
I worry about Mohammed, and Jose.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:42 pm
cjhsa wrote:
I worry about Mohammed, and Jose.


I worry more about Billy-Bob and Bubba.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:47 pm
You would, and maybe you should.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:48 pm
cjhsa wrote:
You would, and maybe you should.


But its nothing like the worry that President Bush averted, by carrying out his mighty strategy for victory in Iraq!!
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:51 pm
snood wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
You would, and maybe you should.


But its nothing like the worry that President Bush averted, by carrying out his mighty strategy for victory in Iraq!!


Insubordinate. I'm waiting for the photo of of you saluting candidate Hillary.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:53 pm
cjhsa wrote:
snood wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
You would, and maybe you should.


But its nothing like the worry that President Bush averted, by carrying out his mighty strategy for victory in Iraq!!


Insubordinate. I'm waiting for the photo of of you saluting candidate Hillary.


These naybobs of negativism can't ever sway me from saluting our visionary President for carrying to fruition his strategy for victory in the Middle East!!
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cyphercat
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:54 pm
Why, snood! I was just composing a post similar to yours!

I thought I'd point out that at least none of us need worry about any Iraqis, thanks to the unwavering commitment our president has shown in bringing them democracy. President Bush has charted a course that ensures a swift and decisive victory in Iraq, giving the Iraqis sweet, sweet freedom.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 09:57 pm
Indeed cyphercat,
it is difficult not to swell with the pride that comes from knowing how President Bush has brought true democracy and freedom to Iraq, with his vision and strategy for victory.
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herberts
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 11:37 pm
Just one question: Is snood being sarcastic about Prez Bush and his Iraqi escape... ?
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 12:03 am
Hey guys how about leaving comments about Bush and Hillary to other threads? There's plenty ob'm.

Thanks to Herberts for livening up the thread...he has his uses, after all.

Thanks to Nimh for sorrecting that point about "asians". People from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are commonly called "asians" in this country; (not all are muslim of course) and herberts should acquaint himself with this fact. I think most British muslims are Pakistani in origin.

I'll deal with his other errors later.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 12:26 am
Correction: Herbert..
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Just one question: Is snood being sarcastic about Prez Bush and his Iraqi escapade... ?
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Francis
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 12:32 am
Sorry about your imprecision of Middle-East. Egypt is in Africa and part of the Middle-East.

Check here : Middle-East
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 12:47 am
Referring to Pakistanis and subcontinental Indians as 'Asians' is a silly affectation which has been promoted into common usage in the UK only as a direct result of the term 'Paki' having become stigmatised as a term of abuse and derision.

In common parlance every man and his dog knows that the term 'Asian' refers to everyone east of India and Bangladesh.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 12:57 am
Excellent point, Frankie-baby! But just try telling McShag that Egypt is a 'Middle Eastern' country! "Oh! But it's in Africa[/i]" he'll say... http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/laugh.gif

European>> Middle Eastern>>'Pakistan & India'>> Asia>> South East Asia.

That's it. The auction is closed. It's no longer negotiable.
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kitchenpete
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 03:19 am
herberts wrote:
Referring to Pakistanis and subcontinental Indians as 'Asians' is a silly affectation which has been promoted into common usage in the UK only as a direct result of the term 'Paki' having become stigmatised as a term of abuse and derision.

In common parlance every man and his dog knows that the term 'Asian' refers to everyone east of India and Bangladesh.


Herberts - you have clearly been away from the UK for too long to know which terms are commonly used for what.

"Asian" as used in the UK as a descriptive term for genetic origin, as McTag rightly says, generally refers to people from the Indian subcontinent (now Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka).

This makes perfect sense as all these countries are in Asia, were part of the British Empire and therefore have strong links to the UK over hundreds of years.

I know that in the USA, the term "Asian" refers to people from further east - the "Orient" and I assume that you use the term in the same way in Australia.

Clearly you are losing touch with British culture..."Paki" is a term which has been used so often with hate that those of us without prejudice against those of Pakistani origin do not use it.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 04:05 am
kitchenpete...
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"Paki" is a term which has been used so often with hate that those of us without prejudice against those of Pakistani origin do not use it.


Ah-HA! Would you like to elaborate on this theme... ? nimh-nuts has pooh-poohed the poll-statistic which reveals that despite the passage of some 40-years[/i] since the floodgates were opened to Third World immigration and[/i] the appearance of their UK-born offspring -- a full 94% of white Brits have no friendships with any of these ethnics.

If it was only a very few who were hateful towards the Pakis, then how do you account for this massive figure of 94% of white Brits chosing to shun any socialising with the ethnic communities... ?

What this seems to suggest to me is that a very sizeable portion of traditional British society has very quietly, but very bitterly resented the fact of having had another nationality come swanning into their own homeland nation to establish for themselves their own identity and communal networks as a distinctive people who obviously wish to maintain their foreign identity.

And trust me, kitchenpete... not only do the Americans think of 'Asia' as referring to all points east of the Indian subcontinent - but so too do we here in Australia believe this to be the case - despite what the text books will tell you.
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kitchenpete
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 04:42 am
Well, we agree that the formal definition of Asia starts at the Bosphoros and extends all the way to the Bering Straits but you've proved nothing by echoing my point about current usage.

Surely, you wouldn't want the British culture of using a term in its correct sense to be "overrun" by American or Australian slang. Rolling Eyes

You are simply playing with statistics for your own ends if you consider it to be a valid inference that 94% of white British people, who do not acknowledge active friendship with persons of other ethnic origins, also support your "repatriation" ideas or resent sharing their country with the others.

I've had enough of your hate - I know your opinions are your own and you have every right to have them and express them but...and I mean this in all sincerity...I hope that these opinions die with your generation.

For the record, I will continue to enjoy the diversity of the current British population and will associate myself with those who also appreciate this...including my friends whose grandparents may have come from another part of the world.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 05:15 am
kitchenpete...
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I've had enough of your hate - I know your opinions are your own and you have every right to have them and express them but...and I mean this in all sincerity...I hope that these opinions die with your generation.


Nationalism will always re-assert itself eventually, kitchenpete. At present it is in a state of suspended animation in the UK due to years of concerted effort by the social-engineers in politics and in the nation's classrooms to propagate the dogmas of PC ideology whilst at the same time imposing a regime of moral blackmail upon the citizenry about how it is that 'decent' people should not hold to 'racist' views or feel discriminatory towards immigrant foreigners.

My generation believed it was right and proper that national borders should exist so as to differentiate between the different cultures, races, and religious creeds of it citizens. There was no shame in feeling defensive and protective of ones national identity and cultural heritage as there is now.

It's something of a mystery how it is that Britain's former colonies were perfectly correct to not want the British to continue living amongst them any longer - and yet this very same resentment for foreigners seems to lose its legitimacy and have no moral currency when it is applied in reverse by English people against the immigrant invasion of the past 40-years. Most peculiar.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 05:24 am
Eorl...
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..or you could just answer the questions. You seem very determined to ignore mine.

Are you a person of European descent living in Australia?


Yes.
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Francis
 
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Reply Wed 10 May, 2006 05:27 am
Finally some positive news on British immigrants...
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