Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

Communists ? ! ? ! ?

You're all communists ? ! ? ! ?

All these years, you've taken me in. I thought you were just ordinarily intelligent people, trying to understand the world you inhabit, and the people who surround you. But now i learn you're all communists ! ! !

I bet Gautam is the biggest commie of them all ! ! ! The money is just a front, he's out to destroy all we cherish ! ! !

The sky is falling ! ! ! The sky is falling ! ! !

-- C. Little

Calm, Set, calm down: about five regulars here aren't.

Remembering this morning, that regiments from the Indian sub-continent featured largely in infantry battles in WWII, and sustained huge losses on behalf of the allied cause. A heavy price in blood was paid by them.

I daresay if it wasn't for the Indians, my German fluency today might be a lot better than it is. And the freedoms they helped to buy includes the freedom of wingnuts like you, herberts, to rabbit on the Web.

The sentence was in relation to those who were supposed to be deported but weren't, and ended up committing crimes against people. It was not related to terrorism or Muslim extremists.

The article proves that not only is there a paper that doesn't pander to the Government, it is tough against immigrants that shouldn't be here.

Furthermore, RaceDriver205, your labelling of us as Communist leaves something to be desired. Communism is a naive idealistic view that stagnates economic growth and cannot be maintained without tyranny. Just because you disagree with our views, which have a socially liberal slant to it, you unjustifiably label as Communists. Drop that cliché like a bad habit.



And what justification do you have for any of these baseless claims? How is it Communist?



That's a tad different from what you're proposing our ideas are. Classless, perhaps, that would be nice (not going to happen). Stateless, don't know what that's about. Common ownership of the means of production? No, that's not going to happen.

Just because our ideals fit a tiny part of the description of Communism, you label us as Communists? Perhaps we should call you Nazis, because your ideals fit a tiny part of the description of Nazis.

Let's look at the situation here in the UK, shall we?

All immigrants are expected to learn or speak English. All documents and signs are in English. Translated versions are only available through request. The average English person knows no other language except English, forcing immigrants to learn the native language.

The English flag flies proudly from a lot of flagpoles, pubs and even some houses. It is fashionable to sport the English flag on your clothes, to show your pride in England.

Morris dancing is still practised.

The British sandwich is still as popular as ever, as is a cuppa. Pubs are as popular as they have ever been. British television mainly shows programming made in Britain with British personalities and its most popular programs are British.

If my parents' fish and chip shop is anything to go by, the traditional British Fish and Chips is as popular as ever. And no, I won't send you any or give you a discount. So there. :wink:

Races mingle. They speak and converse in English. They go down to the pub to have a pint, which usually involves having more than one pint. Football is still the country's favourite national pasttime, with cricket following in close.

The English Village Green is still very much a village green.

Politeness is still very much a part of society, except where the lower classes are concerned. That, of course, is upbringing.

The uniform cultureless world you fear is a Boogieman, at best. If our society comes even close, you will find me complaining just as vocally as you are.

I already complain about the lack of interest by the British population in traditional dishes and think an unfair amount of history classes are given over to histories of the USA and to Nazi Germany (although the latter is quite important).

Do you think the UK isn't my country, despite being born and raised here, despite having a great pride in it?

A good point, McT--for example, the United Nations Army in Italy as of 1944 contained the Fourth Indian Infantry Division, the Indian Motor Brigade, the 10th, 17th, 19th, 20th, 21st and 25th Indian Infantry Brigades--just a short list of units from the subcontinent which answered the call of empire in the Second World War.

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immigration
a/t to BBC the influx of workers/migrants from other - newly joined - european countries is increasing rather sharply .
will it soon be perogies instead of fish and chips ?
hbg

...FROM THE BBC : E.U. MIGRANTS ERODE OLD DIVISIONS...

Oh well, back to fulfilling the terms of my contract with the Anglo-Ghetto-fodder Friendship Society...

Mouseketeer nimh! - where in heaven's name did you get the idea that the term 'ghetto-fodder' refers to ethnic communities that are rat-poor and living in dire penury... ?

Au contraire, mijn vriend! Quite the opposite is true. Many an assets-rich millionaire lurks amongst the hoi polloi down there in the seething ghettoes.

It would seem Mr. Herberts has nothing but insults and when proven wrong has the audacity not to admit it.

Wolfy - thank you for that mini-autobiography. I have no issue with Chinese immigration per se, except of course (as I'm sure you will concede) - a great deal of criminal activity is centred around immigrant South East Asian ghetto-communities.

Here in Australia the very first Special Police Squad that had to be set up to combat Serious Crime was the South East Asian Crimes Squad. Never before in the history of Australia was it necessary to form a special police force to deal with overwhelming criminal activity amongst a specific immigrant group.

We have over 200... yes, 200 separate immigrant ethnic communities here in Australia - and but for Middle Eastern crime - the South East Asian community has earned for itself the notoriety of needing a special Crime Squad to control its prodigious criminal activities.

Standover extortion of shop-keepers; drugs importation, distribution and street-dealing; money-laundering; identity fraud; bank card fraud; copyright infringements; illegal gambling-houses; clothes-industry sweat-shops employing slave labour; slave prostitution; etc

It's not a pretty sight - and a staggering number of South East Asians are at any one time languishing in our jails.

And Wolfy - your confession for being a fraudulent 'Englishman' is something I appreciate for your honesty. How many times have I heard the likes of Steve bleating on about how we can't repatriate UK-ethnics... "because they were born in Britain and are therefore English".

Utter tripe, of course... patent and fallacious hogwash. Your own autobiographic Confessions here have very adequately put this misguided delusion to rest.

Let me spell it out: An immigration programme should only accept those people who are willing to become 'English' - unreservedly - and without hyphenations and escape-clauses.

Britain's immigration programme was not set up with the intention of making available British suburban real estate for the purpose of allowing immigrant foreigners the opportunity to form their own colonial ghettoes and ethnic mini-fiefdoms from which to breed further generations of ethnic-clones.

Wolfy - I want you to put down your chopsticks and go to the window and scream out "I'M AS MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!"

... and then I want you to go out and marry a real English girl.

Herberts, your entire post is incredulous to say the least and every post I have read so far has been filled with racial stereotypes. I have in no way proved your point with my post.

Before I continue any further, I want you to define what it means to be English and what is English culture.

It seems to me that nothing I do short of having my entire DNA changed would make you believe that I have a right to this country.

Let me give you a hint about these so-called 'racial stereotypes' - despite the pitfalls of unfair parody - they surprisingly often fit the bill.

Try to get a copy of this book which is a boots-and-all, no PC-bullsh*t exposé of the crime-plague that has settled upon Australia's major cities ever since the inception of South East Asian immigration in the mid-70's.

The book is written by a policeman, Tim Priest, who was right there at the coal-face dealing with this orgy of drugs and violence. His co-author is Richard Basham - a professor and expert on South East Asian crime.

Way to focus on the least important part of my post. I am more interested in what you believe it means to be English and what English culture is. I believe I fit the bill quite well, but it would seem I don't meet your criteria of what it means to be English.

So what do you believe does it mean to be English and what do you believe is English culture?

That's twice, Wolf. Maybe he'll get through verbally masturbating by the third time you ask.

Wolf...

You are being disingenuous, of course. Let's not waste each other's time with such party-games... As you go about your day you yourself would be very aware of just who is, and who isn't, a genuine Englishman.

Wolf_MacDonald... Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:19 am Post: 2015976 -



Hellooo... ? I thought being born in Britain makes you an Englishman... ?

(nimh... did he kick an own-goal or what... ?)

Now, now, let's be fair, I did make two points in my post.

1. I thought his posts were rife with racial stereotypes.
2. I challenged him on the issue of what it means to be English and English culture.

Wolfy -

I'm happy for you to live in the UK. I am being painted here every kind of racist monster - which I am not.

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No, no, I'm curious as to your definition. This is not disingenuous behaviour. It is curiosity as to what you consider to be English and what you consider to be English culture.

And to be fair, I never said I was an Englishman. Being born in the UK makes me British. To me and to everyone else in this country, English is a racial term reserved for Caucasians born in England. When I said Chinese, I meant racially, as does everybody else here in England.

So tell me, what do you think does it means to be English and what do you think is English culture? You charge that both are under threat from immigrants, yet you do not define either and show how either are under threat.