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Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 02:07 am
I suppose, Francis, even a simple picture would surpass his skills.


Although, when remembereing the academics within the German Nazis ... Shocked
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 02:09 am
Lord Ellpus...
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Herberts, IMO you are a dangerous idiot.

One should never argue with an idiot, as people watching may not be able to tell the difference. I will thereore take my leave of this thread.

Bye bye.


Do I detect a note of hostility here... ? Is it something I said... ? My after-shave lotion... ? My halitosis a little too overwhelming... ?

Fear not milord! This has all been an April Fools Joke and you've been HAD! http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/laugh.gif
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 02:17 am
Here is a Japanese immigrant who has taken root beside me.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Tags1/119_1930.jpg

Prunus "Kanzan" He is looking his best today.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 02:18 am
The Prince...
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Herberts - I am an Indian living in London. Tell me, what would you propose for a guy like me?


A date with Lord Ellpus... ? http://www.xtrememass.com/forum//images/smilies/1203/kekekegay.gif

http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/lachen70.gif
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 02:29 am
Thank you, McTag. I appreciate the distraction from all this leftwing bile.

Beautiful tree. And in keeping with The Prince's appearance here let me show you a picture of a Crepe Myrtle which is the national tree of India. This is only a baby compared to the full-grown one which I have on my property.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/ruffdiamond/nm43.jpg
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 02:37 am
herberts wrote:
The Prince...
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Herberts - I am an Indian living in London. Tell me, what would you propose for a guy like me?


A date with Lord Ellpus... ? http://www.xtrememass.com/forum//images/smilies/1203/kekekegay.gif

http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/lachen70.gif


You took the coward's way out of that one, didn't you, Mr White Champion?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 03:41 am
Labour are terrified of white working class defecting to the BNP. But they only have themselves to blame. Its not because the country has suddenly been flooded with immigrants. All the governments current woes are traceable to the lies they told over the necessity for the war. You can lie about employment statistics or the inflation rate or the prospects for tax cuts. But you cant lie about the necessity for war. The government cant rule by dictat. They need the active co operation of the professions, civil servants, middle classes etc who actually do the managing of the country. Blair has lost that good will. They feel let down and betrayed in a very deep and personal way. There was a great deal of support for the incoming Labour administration amongst the managerial class, the fundamental breech of trust over the war has broken it. All of a sudden it appears the wheels are coming off this administration, things go wrong by accident design or incompetence, and they go wrong fundamentally because the people Blair needs to actually implement policy feel betrayed. The fiasco over foreign criminals let loose to re offend is a case in point. Its no co incidence all this bad news for Labour is happening just before the local elections. The BNP may very well benefit in the short run, but what is really going on is a huge push by people who have clout to get rid of Tony Blair. I expect the BNP to make some spectacular gains, and within a few weeks Gordon Brown will take over a New New Labour mark 2.
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RaceDriver205
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 04:07 am
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"Flushing foreigners and alien imposters all the way back to their own racial and cultural homelands"

This is fine, this is not nazi. The nazis as I recall butchered several million jews.
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Labour are terrified of white working class defecting to the BNP.

God I hope they do! Frigin idiots that voted in labour. Blair is a real weak prick. Yes you are very nice races, arabs indians blacks etc - and we respect you and your culture. Now respect us and keep it in your own respective countries!.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 04:19 am
I just found another right-wing quote from British tabloids that proves Herberts original postulation wrong.

"The so-called human rights of worthless people who have no right to be here have become more important than the safety of law abiding citizens" - The Sun, in reference to illegal immigrants.

And yes, illegal immigrants do provide a strain on our society.

However, I do not see how me being Chinese and having my own culture is detrimental to British society. We keep our culture separate from the British one, whilst participating in the British culture ourselves.

It is perfectly possible to maintain two cultural identities and keep them perfectly separate.

The fact that people would like to celebrate Chinese New Year has more to do with them wanting to, rather than us forcing them to.

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of the white population going gaga over Chinese New Year. They hardly understand it. They don't celebrate it properly and to them it's more like some kind of novelty sideshow that they go to gawp at once every year.

RaceDriver205 wrote:
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"Flushing foreigners and alien imposters all the way back to their own racial and cultural homelands"


This is fine, this is not nazi. The nazis as I recall butchered several million jews.


It is, however, racist. I would understand if the word, illegal was included. That's not racist. That's common sense. Your proposal would be genetically unsound.

And it's not only Labour that's terrified of people defecting to the BNP. It's nearly every single political party (with the obvious exception of the BNP). Even the Conservatives can't stomach the idea.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 04:57 am
"The so-called human rights of worthless people", eh? And that in Britain's most-read newspaper... scary, even if it's a tabloid.

Herberts, dont throw the Leninist tripe on me; I'm an anti-communist and consider Lenin to have been a putschist, dictator and mass murderer, one of last century's most harmful figures.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 05:02 am
McTag...
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You took the coward's way out of that one, didn't you, Mr White Champion?


Yes McMoron, you're quite right of course. I've been far too circumspect and mealy-mouthed to state my real opinions here... (rolls eyes, long suffering sigh)

*yawn*... okay Prince - you're next.

So you're an Indian in London. Were you born an 'Indian in London'... ? Are you, like Wolf, a part of a burgeoning colony of intransigent foreigners who are living in England under the false pretence of having been accepted as 'assimilable immigrants' but instead are nothing more than ghetto-fodder... ?

Speak up man! Leave nothing out! I can tell when you're lying, so tread softly.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 05:03 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Labour are terrified of white working class defecting to the BNP. But they only have themselves to blame. Its not because the country has suddenly been flooded with immigrants. All the governments current woes are traceable to the lies they told over the necessity for the war.

IMO New Labour lost the white working class way before the Iraq war. Clamping down on trade union power,clamoring for privatisation, doing away with most all intra-party democracy, focusing one's campaigns and policies purely on floating-voter, middle-class focus groups, and generally not giving a rat's ass about one's own labour, working class core support made for the alienation of Barking voters long before 2003.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 05:05 am
herberts wrote:
*yawn*... okay Prince - you're next.

So you're an Indian in London. Were you born an 'Indian in London'... ? Are you, like Wolf, a part of a burgeoning colony of intransigent foreigners who are living in England under the false pretence of having been accepted as 'assimilable immigrants' but instead are nothing more than ghetto-fodder... ?

The Prince was born in India as far as I know, and, with his career, is richer than you, I and a handful of other posters on this thread combined. Ghetto-fodder my *ss.
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 05:07 am
Wolf...
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I just found another right-wing quote from British tabloids that proves Herberts original postulation wrong.

"The so-called human rights of worthless people who have no right to be here have become more important than the safety of law abiding citizens" - The Sun, in reference to illegal immigrants.

The phrase 'worthless people' is, I must admit, something of a surprise. But hang on - are you quoting someone's letter in the 'Letters Page'... ?
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herberts
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 05:41 am
nimh...
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The Prince was born in India as far as I know, and, with his career, is richer than you, I and a handful of other posters on this thread combined. Ghetto-fodder my *ss.


Goodness gracious - what a brain-explosion. Here we have nimh spluttering in high dudgeon that I have failed to give a man his due respect commensurate with the amount of money he has acquired in this life.

Not an own-goal, nimh, but you've dropped the ball, son. Wrong priorities... wrong values... and a certain immature perception here of what personal components should command the respect of your fellow-man. And it ain't filthy lucre.

It seems that nimh is highly impressed by a man's personal wealth - apparently this to him signifies the true measure of a man's worth.

Does he drive a bigger car than us, nimh? Or perhaps he lives in a bigger house... ? How about his penis size - put us to shame would it... ? More gold rings on his fingers than a dozen of us put together... ? WoW! I feel really humbled and intimidated by this. Bigger... taller... broader... more bling bling... ??
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 05:51 am
herberts wrote:
Wolf...
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I just found another right-wing quote from British tabloids that proves Herberts original postulation wrong.

"The so-called human rights of worthless people who have no right to be here have become more important than the safety of law abiding citizens" - The Sun, in reference to illegal immigrants.

The phrase 'worthless people' is, I must admit, something of a surprise. But hang on - are you quoting someone's letter in the 'Letters Page'... ?


If I was, I wouldn't attribute it to the Sun. It's an editor's position. I am very picky about proper referencing.

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Are you, like Wolf, a part of a burgeoning colony of intransigent foreigners who are living in England under the false pretence of having been accepted as 'assimilable immigrants' but instead are nothing more than ghetto-fodder... ?


Yes, I suspect he probably is like me. However, your description doesn't fit me at all. I'm not living within a Chinese community, unless you count my immediate family consisting of one father and one mother. There is one other Chinese family across the road from me and a few Indian families and one (from what I can tell) Turkish family.

There is also a British African family down the road. The majority of the other families are white.

My other family members also live in white communities. My oldest Uncle is a respected member of his community, a Rotary member that organised a very large charity concert featuring much British talent. He sings praises of this country, to the detriment of his originating country. Ironically, he holds slightly prejudiced views against his own kinsfolk.

I come from no ghetto. My education was paid for, not by the state, but by me and my family.

Although in my time at University, I did see what seemed to be a ghetto-isation of course subjects. However, this was only limited to course subjects and many people of these courses had friends of other races.

And I laugh at people who label me this or another. I've been called everything from communist to socialist to left-wing liberal to right-wing conservative to fascist. Actually, now that I think about it, nobody's called me a Commie.

And yes, I was born in this country.
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kitchenpete
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 06:49 am
I'm looking forward to The Prince's response. This should be fun!

I imagine this Twisted Evil will be the tone! Laughing
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 07:19 am
herberts wrote:
It seems that nimh is highly impressed by a man's personal wealth - apparently this to him signifies the true measure of a man's worth.

Absolute nonsense.

(And inconsistent nonsense at that; one moment I'm a Leninist middle-class hater who despises the monied classes, the next I'm a fawner of wealth and bling bling?)

The truth is you immediately suggested our Indian-British friend might be "ghetto-fodder"; and I put you right on that.

And thats about it. Anything else you chose to read in my post is projection.

(And I do think your going on about it suggests you have, ouch, some issues there... did something hit a vulnerable spot there?)
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RaceDriver205
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 07:21 am
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"The so-called human rights of worthless people who have no right to be here have become more important than the safety of law abiding citizens"

I would like to have seen the context that was in. In the previous sentence was "Terrorists and Muslim Extremists are worthless people", I dont have a problem with that. If it refers to muslims, pakistanis or other groups, I disagree with them being worthless. But this still isn't their country.

An interesting idea! Were we to follow the communist ideas that have dominated this thread we would end up with this:
A uniform cultureless world of a single raceless human species speaking a language combining all current ones. Is that what you people actually want? Please clarify.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 07:25 am
RaceDriver205 wrote:
I would like to have seen the context that was in.


Here's the link for the quoted Sun report: Cost of chaos
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