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The Worst President in History?

 
 
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 06:10 pm
BernardR wrote:
I do find it extremely interesting, however, that in one of his chef D'Oeuvres about the VP contest he does not spell the name of Quayle"s opponent correctly. He wrote Bentson( instead of the correct Bentsen.

You would think that such a gifted writer would correct his copy( if indeed he really knew how to spell the man's name correctly) before submitting his post.


No ... we are lucky that Frank spends any time at all with us, let alone allow us to read his writing. It is too much to expect for him to check spelling.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 06:16 pm
I love it.

I got 'em talking to themselves.

They found a spelling error...and they are besides themselves with delight.

I own these saps.

They are my property.

At some point I will ask them to shyt...and they will ask: Where and how much?

I love 'em.

They bring joy to my heart.

:wink:
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BernardR
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 06:18 pm
Frank APisa wrote:

Actually...no that is not the basic theme of my writing at all.

But the fact is that American conservatives have been on the wrong side of every great issue this country has ever faced.

It also is true that without the numbers provided by the racist scum of our country...and the supposed Christians who are hypocritically willing to get into bed with a philosophy that runs contrary to just about every teaching of Jesus...

...it would be a minor blip on the American body politic.

American conservatism is a joke...a particularly dirty, cruel joke...but a joke nonetheless.

*************************************************

How well written- not close to genius but well written.

Howver, I must reluctantly state that I don't believe a word of it.

It was written by a noted writer named Frank A Pisa who is widely published but I still don't believe a single word of it is true.

Now, if Mr.Apisa would provide some EVIDENCE OR DOCUMENTATION which would support his thesis, I would eagerly examine it. But, I must regretfully state that even though Mr. Apisa is a well know writer who has been published in some of the finest venues in the USA, I don't believe a word of it.

One of the reasons I don't believe a word of it( not the only one of course) is that if Mr. Frank Apisa was correct in his assertion that american conservatives have been on the wrong side of every great issue this country has faced, that would mean that the American voter( who voted for Bush in 2000, Republicans in 2002 and Bush in 2004 are just sheep who are easily fooled.

I don't believe that and I have never found evidence to lead me to believe such a thing is true>
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 06:25 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
I love 'em.

They bring joy to my heart.

:wink:


I can speak only for myself, of course, but bringing joy to your heart is what I live for.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 08:25 pm
ticomaya wrote:
I think his point is that perhaps you should remove the plank out of your own eye.

Okay, will somebody please translate this for me? It must be lowyer talk/language.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 08:26 pm
My conclusion about ticomaya's post:
1. no meaning
2. no value
3. poor advise or insult
4. guy needs to learn the common English language
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 08:29 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
My conclusion about ticomaya's post:
1. no meaning
2. no value
3. poor advise or insult
4. guy needs to learn the common English language

Are u preparing for the August 6th celebrations ?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 08:35 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ticomaya wrote:
I think his point is that perhaps you should remove the plank out of your own eye.

Okay, will somebody please translate this for me? It must be lowyer talk/language.


You are more likely to find it in the bible than in a law book.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 08:38 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Asherman wrote:
I too would dearly like to see some of Frank's serious writing that isn't disrespectful of the reader. Frank, do you have a thousand words or so, on any topic, that might give us all a better appreciation of your capacity? Can you give us citationf for your published work? I'm not even sure what field you've dedicated your life and career to.


I did have a MY TURN...the full page essay given by NEWSWEEK Magazine to guest columnists. It was published on 2/21/94. Perhaps you can go to the NEWSWEEK archives and read it. It was 1000 words...and they paid me a thousand dollars for it. (They got over a hundred responses from around the country.)

I was a community columnist for The Courier-News...with dozens upon dozens of thousand word op ed columns to my credit there.

The New York Times published an op ed sized letter (one of the longest they've ever published) in their March 4th 1989 edition. You can go to their archives and read it if you want.

One of my favorite coups was just after the Bentson/Quayle debate. NEWSWEEK and TIME got over 800 letters each on that issue. (Oct '88, I think) I sent separate, different comments to both...and my letters were selected for inclusion. Both major weeklies...and both with a huge amount of letters to choose from. I got 'em both. Look it up in the archives of each if you are as interested as you say.

I have had op ed pieces published in newspapers in damn near every major city of this country...and several in newspapers in England.


So you haven't had an entry in "All in a Day's Work" yet? Oh, well ... keep on trying.

Quote:
I say what I have to say clearly, interestingly, and in a way that causes editors to use my submissions.


Why do I have the impression that the basic theme running through all of your writing is, "____ is a moron. The conservatives have been on the wrong side of every great issue this country has ever faced"? ... written succinctly and interestingly, of course.


Actually...no that is not the basic theme of my writing at all.

But the fact is that American conservatives have been on the wrong side of every great issue this country has ever faced.

It also is true that without the numbers provided by the racist scum of our country...and the supposed Christians who are hypocritically willing to get into bed with a philosophy that runs contrary to just about every teaching of Jesus...

...it would be a minor blip on the American body politic.

American conservatism is a joke...a particularly dirty, cruel joke...but a joke nonetheless.

With u being as hostile as u have indicated
to what is conserved from the origins of America
( i.e., freedom n individualism )
maybe u 'd be happier in a place more congenial
to collectivism & authoritarianism, like North Korea.
I bet u 'd enjoy the delights of kim jong ill better than W, right ?

See your friendly travel agent
and don 't forget to write.
David
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 08:55 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ticomaya wrote:
I think his point is that perhaps you should remove the plank out of your own eye.

Okay, will somebody please translate this for me? It must be lowyer talk/language.


I didn't realize you weren't following my reference. You should have said something earlier, c.i.

Here's what I said:

Ticomaya wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
mm wrote (again another stupid statement):
Yet you denigrate others and call them stupid.
If you were so smart,you would have done better in high school and maybe gone on to college.

I think you need to remember that you "barely graduated" the next time you attack someone with a better education then you.

I did graduate from college with a major in Accounting - in the top 25 percent of my graduating class. I worked in management except for the first 3.5 years I worked as a traveling auditor for Florsheim Shoe Company. They promoted me to Audit Manager, and from then on, I've worked in management for a handful of companies, and also did consulting work.


I think his point is that perhaps you should remove the plank out of your own eye.

Ticomaya wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
... Your lowyerly brain isn't that sharp ...


There's that plank again.


Matthew 7 (NIV):

Quote:
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.


You will note the advice to not throw your pearls to pigs is also written here.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 09:15 pm
ticomaya, I don't read the bible, and I'm an atheist. Anything the bible says is fiction, so is that the best you can do?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 09:50 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ticomaya, I don't read the bible, and I'm an atheist. Anything the bible says is fiction, so is that the best you can do?


I know you're an athiest, c.i. The fact that you haven't read the Bible is your loss, not mine.

Anyway, now you know I was basically calling you a hypocrite.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 09:59 pm
Mr. Imposter is wrong again as usual.

Although Mr. Imposter is entirely within his rights to believe that certain events found in the Bible are not true, he is very much mistaken when he states that the Bible is fiction.

The Bible is not only a depiction of the life of Jesus but it is also a historical document which accurately describes the states and powers extant two and three milleniums ago.

The description of Cannan in the Bible is quite accurate since it corresponds with the region occupied today by Lebanon and Israel.

In the light of what is occuring today, that is most interesting.

I think that Mr. Imposter should know that many scholars who are atheists do in fact refer to the Bible as a source.

I think Mr. Imposter should do more reading!!!
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 11:28 pm
And many theologians concede that the bible was shaped by the political situation of the times. Should I go back and read why the heck we are talking about this?

A bible-reading atheist.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 11:30 pm
CLUES that the bible is fiction:
1. There is nothing on earth that shows there is a bible god except in people's imagination.
2. According to the bible, earth is only 6,000 years old. Scientists have shown us that earth is 4.5 billion years old.
3. If something can come from nothing, who created the bible god?
4. How was there a "first day of creation" without the sun. "Let there be light."
5. Why does the bible god approve of homophobic bigotry and the right to own slaves?
6. If the bible god is a "loving" god, show us where it says that in the bible. Don't forget to mention the vengeful god, and a jealous god.
7. Why did god kill all the innocent babies with the world flood?
8. Why does god curse generations upon generations of the sinful when they haven't even been born? Aren't we supposed to be responsible for our own sins?
9. Why does god treat women unequally?
10. Have you stoned anybody yet as directed by the bible?

All of you are hypocrites.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 11:35 pm
Sir- The existence of Cannan, which I referenced. was NOT shaped by the political situtation of the times, as I noted Mr. Imposter is certainly free to believe or disbelieve whatever he wishes BUT he cannot say that the Bible is FICTION. There are some parts of the Bible, especially the depiction of various city states and their rulers which are corroborated by other Historians. NO, THE BIBLE IS NOT ALL FICTION.


Mr.Imposter, as usual, is not careful with his language. He should have said--I believe that MOST of the Bible is fiction. Then he would have been on secure grounds, but, as usual, he generalizes and is wrong--again!
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2006 11:59 pm
Bernard

In Emily Bronte's 'Wuthering Heights' there is an accurate depiction of Yorkshire, its geography and climate, and indeed the social mores of the 18th century in that part of England.

By your logic Wuthering Heights is not a work of fiction.

Put your analyst on danger money baby.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 12:38 am
Mr. Hingehead. I am very much afraid that you did not follow the argument correctly. There is, in case you are unaware, a whole genre of writing popularized by Truman Capote and others called Journalistic Fiction. In his book, In Cold Blood, Mr, Capote tells the story of two murderers. The basic story is according to the facts which occured. The words he puts in his characters' mouths are in part, fiction. Some of the words are recorded fact.

Even though the novel is placed in the Fiction section of the LIbrary it does contain some fact.

And if Wuthering Heights contains virtual descriptions of certain areas,those sections are not fictional. Fiction is defined as imaginative narration. There is nothing imaginative about the existence of Cannan or King David of Israel or the Destruction of Jerusalem.

Go to your local library and serarch the Fiction Section for Bible. You will not find it there.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:58 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
I love 'em.

They bring joy to my heart.

:wink:


I can speak only for myself, of course, but bringing joy to your heart is what I live for.


Thanks, Ti.

I appreciate it.

Twisted Evil
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 03:07 am
BernardR wrote:
Frank APisa wrote:

Actually...no that is not the basic theme of my writing at all.

But the fact is that American conservatives have been on the wrong side of every great issue this country has ever faced.

It also is true that without the numbers provided by the racist scum of our country...and the supposed Christians who are hypocritically willing to get into bed with a philosophy that runs contrary to just about every teaching of Jesus...

...it would be a minor blip on the American body politic.

American conservatism is a joke...a particularly dirty, cruel joke...but a joke nonetheless.

*************************************************

How well written- not close to genius but well written.

Howver, I must reluctantly state that I don't believe a word of it.


Don't be so reluctant, ya jerk.

Someone like you shouldn't be reluctant to realize that you are part of a political philosophy comprised in considerable part of scum, racists, morons, dupes, and the like. You fit right in.

So don't be reluctant.

Unless of course, that "I must reluctantly state..." is just one of those trite pieces of writing bullshyt you put into damn near everything you write...probably because you have almost no writing talent at all.

I love ya, buddy.

Keep helping me!

Twisted Evil



Quote:

It was written by a noted writer named Frank A Pisa who is widely published but I still don't believe a single word of it is true.

Now, if Mr.Apisa would provide some EVIDENCE OR DOCUMENTATION which would support his thesis, I would eagerly examine it. But, I must regretfully state that even though Mr. Apisa is a well know writer who has been published in some of the finest venues in the USA, I don't believe a word of it.


Ahhhh...now you are "regretfully" stating something.

Do you really think up this writing drivel by yourself...or do you have a moron in chains who helps you?


Quote:

One of the reasons I don't believe a word of it( not the only one of course) is that if Mr. Frank Apisa was correct in his assertion that american conservatives have been on the wrong side of every great issue this country has faced, that would mean that the American voter( who voted for Bush in 2000, Republicans in 2002 and Bush in 2004 are just sheep who are easily fooled.

I don't believe that and I have never found evidence to lead me to believe such a thing is true>


Well try looking at the evidence with your head out of your ass...and it might become more apparent.
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