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Democrat lawmaker attacks police officer

 
 
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:35 pm
Setanta wrote:
The adjective for a member of the Democratic party is Democratic--as in Democratic lawmaker. How hard is that for you to understand?


The correct title of this thread should have been, "Democratic lawmaker attacks police officer."


Yes, that's much better.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:40 pm
And, of course, the best title would have been:

Lawmaker scuffles with Capitol police

Which was the original title from the CNN piece upon which the thread was based.

Montana's criticism to the effect that MM was trolling with the title and the focus on a member of the Democratic Party was right on target.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:42 pm
Set,
I'll make you a deal.
I will NEVER use the word Democrat ever again to describe a lawmaker,IF you agree to NEVER use the word republican anytime you are talking about anything a lawmaker does.

Is that fair?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:43 pm
<Still wondering: what will be the big topic when the real silly season starts.>
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:45 pm
Anon-Voter wrote:
Montana wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Montana wrote:
MM started this thread simply to get a rise out of the democrats and there is no doubt in my mind on that one!

I'm sure he doesn't like Blacks or women either, so it could be a combination.


Another stupid comment from a lefty on A2K... small wonder that.


Funny how you guys bitch and moan about us, saying that we are constantly attacking you guys and you go and call me stupid Rolling Eyes

You're a funny guy McG ;-)


Isn't it ironic how that works. I noticed MM Take off on a young poster the other night ... I think you were there .... Erymil or something like that. The kid had been totally polite and all, but MM let him have it and started name-calling.

It's hilarious, righties are the first to name-call, and the first to whine !!

Ironic, eh??

Anon


Would you care to post a link to the thread where I am supposed to have called him names?

You cant,because it doesnt exist.
But,you go ahead and run away,like the coward you actually are.
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Montana
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:45 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Montana wrote:
MM
If she was a republican, we wouldn't be having this conversation because you wouldn't have started a thread on it in the first place.


Wanna bet???
And I said Democrat because she IS a Democrat.
How hard is that for you to understand?



Oh, you made sure we all knew she was a democrat and that's my whole point.
The story was about a woman who supposedly assaulted a man, so why didn't you just post the origional heading for the article instead of adding to it like you did?

Why? Because you wanted to get a rise.

You know, after all these years, I don't think I've ever seen you do anything but argue and pick fights with others.

Hell, when you posted this thread, you were so convinced that the democrats were going to defend this woman that you actually accused us of sticking up for her and you even accused people of calling you a racist.

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you keep making stuff up as you go along?

I think you would be very surprised to know how much I understand.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:46 pm
Montana wrote:
If she was a republican, we wouldn't be having this conversation because you wouldn't have started a thread on it in the first place.

Nonsense - had it been a Republican at the center of the flap, a similarly-themed thread would have been started by someone of political bent contrary to MM's, with posts and players then pretty much the same as we have here - just reversed positions.

Meanwhile, the pot continues to bubble - and at present it does not appear McKinney, or her Party, is destined to gain benefit through the excersize:

Quote:
House to vote on commending Capitol police after scuffle with McKinney

(Capitol Hill-AP) April 4, 2006 - Some House Republicans want to officially commend the US Capitol police force for professionalism after a confrontation between an officer and a Democratic congresswoman.
North Carolina Republican Patrick McHenry says ignoring a police officer's order is never OK. He wants the House to pass a resolution supporting the Capitol police.

But Georgia Democrat Cynthia McKinney says her dispute with police isn't about whether she obeyed an officer's order. She says she was "inappropriately touched." And she has said she thinks it happened partly because she's black.

The six-term congresswoman had an argument with a uniformed officer while entering a House building. The officer didn't recognize her. She refused to stop, and struck him. Her actions could draw federal charges.

McKinney hasn't found much support from fellow Democrats. The party's number-two House member, Steny Hoyer of Maryland, says lawmakers and others should "cooperate fully" with Capitol Police officers.


Quote:
Republicans Praise Capitol Hill Police

POSTED: 12:18 pm EDT April 4, 2006

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans pushed a resolution Tuesday commending the Capitol police force for professionalism after a confrontation between an officer and Democratic Rep. Cynthia McKinney ...

Last week, McKinney had an argument with a uniformed police officer as she sought to enter a House office building. The officer did not recognize her. She refused his order to stop and struck him ...

McKinney has drawn little support from her House colleagues, particularly Democrats who are launching an election-year campaign that revolves around the party's commitment to national security.

Her lawyer, James Myart Jr., issued a statement on Friday saying several members of Congress would join McKinney at a press conference on Friday at Howard University.

None did. D.C. Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton issued a statement of concern about the incident and urged the parties to come to an agreement. A spokesman for Rep. Mel Watt, D-N.C., chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, said he has no comment.

McHenry, who at 30 is the youngest member of Congress, said he is routinely stopped by Capitol Police and asked for identification.

"When I'm not wearing my pin, I am always stopped," McHenry said in a telephone interview. "I accept that as a due course of security."
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:46 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Set,
I'll make you a deal.
I will NEVER use the word Democrat ever again to describe a lawmaker,IF you agree to NEVER use the word republican anytime you are talking about anything a lawmaker does.

Is that fair?


My objection is to your incorrect use of language, not your silly political bigotry.
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Montana
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:47 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
<Still wondering: what will be the big topic when the real silly season starts.>



I'm always in silly season ;-)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:53 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
<Still wondering: what will be the big topic when the real silly season starts.>


A very good question--we do seem to be nearing the bottom of the barrel. Count on the Republicans to play this for all they think it's worth. Especially in light of Delay's current situation.
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Montana
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:56 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Montana wrote:
If she was a republican, we wouldn't be having this conversation because you wouldn't have started a thread on it in the first place.

Nonsense - had it been a Republican at the center of the flap, a similarly-themed thread would have been started by someone of political bent contrary to MM's, with posts and players then pretty much the same as we have here - just reversed positions.


Maybe you're right. I don't hang out enough in the political threads to really notice this, but I'll be keeping my eyes open ;-)


Anyway, this thread caught my attention when I was in a political mood and hey, I gotta start somewhere Cool
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 03:59 pm
You said that already.
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Montana
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 04:00 pm
I know but I deleted it just in time Laughing
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 04:01 pm
Drat, foiled again . . .
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Montana
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 04:01 pm
Razz
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 05:43 pm
McKinney is on lotsa folks' minds -

From the Macon GA Telegraph

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2793/mckinneypoll6sf.jpg

From Washington DC's WRC-TV4/NBC

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2382/mckinnepoll27wj.jpg

Another set of opinions:

Quote:
McKinney is distraction, say the Dems
By Josephine Hearn

The bizarre scuffle Wednesday between Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) and an unnamed U.S. Capitol Police officer is winning the spirited congresswoman few new friends in her caucus. In fact, some Democrats are trying to distance themselves from her.

McKinney has been aggressively publicizing the incident, calling press conferences on each of the past two business days and even attracting a mention on the front page of The New York Times, something that the dozens of House and Senate Democrats combined couldn't match when they unveiled their homeland-security plan last week.

Now, with McKinney facing a possible arrest warrant, the media frenzy is set only to escalate. The U.S. Capitol Police referred the issue to the U.S. District Attorney's office for prosecution yesterday.

All of the attention has some Democrats concerned that McKinney is drawing the limelight away from their policy goals and Republicans' ethical missteps to focus on a momentary, disputed encounter in a Capitol Hill hallway.

"There's been a lot of eye-rolling," said an aide to a moderate Democrat who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The national attention it's been getting has been unfortunate. It's becoming a distraction."

A Democratic strategist concurred.

"This isn't the view of Democrats that we want to project in the tough races, one of victims and race-baiting," the strategist said.

McKinney often elicits strong opinions, even within her own caucus. She has a history of making controversial statements that delight progressives while irking moderates, yet even some of the caucus's more progressive members have had disagreements with her.

She and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) no longer speak, not even to exchange greetings when encountering each other in the Capitol hallways, said two House Democratic sources. Pelosi twice turned down McKinney's request to regain her seniority after she was defeated and then reelected in 2002 and 2004. McKinney first came to Congress in 1992.

McKinney spokesman Coz Carson said his boss is an effective member of Congress.

"She's a gutsy leader who gets out in front of important issues," he said. "She demonstrates bold and responsible leadership for the people who elected her to office."

McKinney raised some eyebrows when she attended hearings of the select committee on Hurricane Katrina even after Democratic leaders had decided that only three Democrats ?- Reps. Gene Taylor (Miss.), Bill Jefferson (La.) and Charlie Melancon (La.) ?- would participate.

At her news conference Friday, organizers originally expected to have members of Congress join McKinney in a show of support. None ultimately appeared, although Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) sent a statement saying that "the most responsible and useful course for all involved would be to seek a resolution that would be satisfactory to both parties."

Meanwhile, Republicans have had a field day with the allegations.

Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) called the incident ?- in which McKinney allegedly struck the officer after he stopped her at a security checkpoint ?- "disgraceful" and "horrible." McKinney has said the officer inappropriately touched her.

"I recognize that there are 435 members and I look like a staffer ?- sometimes an intern ?- and sometimes memory fails," said McHenry, who is the youngest member of Congress. "And anyway, I don't think it's smart for any member to tussle with a Capitol Police officer. They're well-trained."

McHenry and Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) plan to introduce a resolution today to show appreciation for the Capitol Police.

Other members were more willing to give McKinney the benefit of the doubt.

"It's a question of fact and whether the officer put his hand on her first or whether he asked her to stop first and asked for ID. The facts will determine who was in the right and who was in the wrong," said Rep. Al Wynn (D-Md.). "I would be offended and upset if [an officer] put his hands on me prior to asking for ID."

A House Democratic aide sided with McKinney.

"The notion that they would charge her is just beyond ludicrous, regardless of what happened. It sounds like a misunderstanding. She clearly wasn't intending to assault a police officer."


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution weighs in

Quote:
McKinney's arrogance crosses line
April 4, 2006

In her embarrassing confrontation with the U.S. Capitol Police, U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney has demonstrated that while she may have changed her trademark hairstyle, her personal style remains as offensive as ever.

McKinney has been sharply criticized ?- and deservedly so ?- for allegedly striking a Capitol police officer who stopped her from going around a security checkpoint, a perk allowed members of Congress.

According to police accounts, the officer asked McKinney three times to halt before putting his hand out to restrain her. That's when Capitol Hill police ?- who asked a federal prosecutor Monday to approve an arrest warrant for McKinney ?- say the outraged congresswoman hit the officer.

The officer apparently failed to recognize the DeKalb Democrat, who was not wearing a special lapel pin given to the 435 House members to help police identify them. In addition, McKinney sports a new hairdo.

A smarter, less arrogant politician would have smiled at the officer who stopped her, extended a hand and explained: "I'm Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney from the great state of Georgia, and I appreciate your diligence in keeping the Capitol safe. Next time, I hope you'll recognize me." She would have had a pal for life.

But why make friends when you can make headlines? Two days after the scuffle, McKinney faced TV cameras and stayed true to form, charging the officer with racism.

"The whole incident was instigated by the inappropriate touching and stopping of me ?- a female, black congresswoman," she said.

McKinney's haughty position ?- that every Capitol employee ought to know her by sight and that she should never have to endure checkpoints like the riffraff ?- evinces the arrogance and ego that voters expect from elected officials. It may be inconvenient for self-important people such as McKinney to stop and show their IDs, but it's essential in these scary times of terrorist bombings and anthrax attacks.

In 1998, two Capitol officers were killed by a mentally ill man who opened fire at the main tourist entrance to the Capitol.

In the past, McKinney has complained that she's mistaken for the "hired help" in Washington. In the next election, DeKalb residents can help clear up that confusion by putting an end to McKinney's employment with them.


We all know all about opinions; everybody's got one. In the case of Rep. McKinney's latest episode of brainfade, it would appear there is remarkably little difference of opinion.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 4 Apr, 2006 08:15 pm
If the only opinions you seek are crackers in Macon...
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2006 05:10 am
So now the people of Georgia that are her constituents are crackers??

And you call me a racist!!!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2006 05:13 am
Geeze, yer a piece of work. who has called you a racist? Do you now allege that Roxxane called you a racist?
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2006 05:18 am
Setanta wrote:
Geeze, yer a piece of work. who has called you a racist? Do you now allege that Roxxane called you a racist?


Yes she has,several times.
After I get home from work,I will be more then happy to provide severfal examples of that.
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