Russ Feingold Proposes Censure of Bush on Illegal Spying

Cyclo,
I have not heard a single plan from the dems except to blame Bush

mysteryman wrote:

Cyclo,
I have not heard a single plan from the dems except to blame Bush

The only reason for that would be you are not listening. A ll I hear from you guys are the same tired, regurgitated knee-jerk talking points.

Roxxxanne wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

Cyclo,
I have not heard a single plan from the dems except to blame Bush

The only reason for that would be you are not listening. A ll I hear from you guys are the same tired, regurgitated knee-jerk talking points.

First off,I am not a republican,so I don't get their talking points memo's.

Roxxxanne wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

Cyclo,
I have not heard a single plan from the dems except to blame Bush

The only reason for that would be you are not listening. A ll I hear from you guys are the same tired, regurgitated knee-jerk talking points.

First off,I am not a republican,so I don't get their talking points memo's.

So,if they have come up with plans,where are they?
They are not posted on the DNC website,nor can I find them anywhere else.
So,enlighten me...

What are they gonna do about taxes?
Are they gonna raise them?

What are they gonna do about national security?
What about health care,or social security,or illegal aliens,or drugs,or crime,or any thing else?

I cannot find a comprehensive plan from the democrat leadership on any website.

Here is the DNC website,to make it easy for you...
http://www.democrats.org/

Blue,
You mention the minimum wage.
OK,lets start there.

What do the dems want to raise it to,and why do they want to raise it.
don't tell me that there are whole families surviving on it,you and I both know thats not true.
It has always been a STARTING wage,a wage you get when you are entering the workforce.
I will admit that there are some retirees working for that,but they are also getting pensions and possibly Social Security,so the minimum wage they get is not a serious part of their income.

I have heard some dems call for a "living wage",but have yet to hear anyone say what that is.
Is it enough for a person to live and have the basic neccessities?
Does a car count for that,or a phone,or cable tv,or the internet?
There are many things that someone could call neccessities,that someone else would say aren't.

Now,who decides what that living wage should be?
And,will it be adjusted for cost of living in the area?

I am paying $54,000 for a 5 bedroom house here in KY.
What kind of house can you get for that in NYC?
So,will the "living wage" be what it costs to live in NYC,or what it costs to live here in Ky?

Again,I have not heard anything from the dems regarding any sort of plan for the country,except to get rid of Bush.
Well,you accomplished that.He will never be president again after this term,so thats one goal accomplished.

Now,who is the dems "front man" going to be.
As I recall,the last couple of candidates were not very popular with the voters,and they didn't seem to have much of a personality.

If the dems can come up with a decent plan,I might vote for them,but as it is right now,they have nothing.

Why not detail those Democrat plans, proposals, positions, and alternatives. Describe the Democrat platform, and show the Democratic Party leadership discussing it and proactively pressing the key issues.

timberlandko wrote:

Why not detail those Democrat plans, proposals, positions, and alternatives. Describe the Democrat platform, and show the Democratic Party leadership discussing it and proactively pressing the key issues.

Why don't you start reading newspapers, or, if that's too hard, watch C-SPAN? There is no excuse to be pro-actively ignorant in this age of instant information.

If the Democrats are presenting a coherent message, its not getting through to the public

If this is true then why are the Democrat pols running from Feingold on this matter?

If the dems were truly presenting a coherent message,then I would hear it.

I would think the dems on here would be shouting it from the rooftops,instead of hiding it like they seem to be doing.

If the dems were truly presenting a coherent message,then I would hear it.

I would think the dems on here would be shouting it from the rooftops,instead of hiding it like they seem to be doing.

georgeob1 wrote:

If this is true then why are the Democrat pols running from Feingold on this matter?

Not hard to figure, really - spinelessness. The polls also show Americans pretty squarely opposed to us being in Iraq, but how many Dems will speak out forceably to that effect? that's why I like Al Gore a lot lately, and that's why I will pay attention to John Edwards a little nowadays, becasue at least he admitted he was wrong to vote for the war - an admission Hillary is to busy equivocating to make.

mysteryman wrote:

If the dems were truly presenting a coherent message,then I would hear it.

I would think the dems on here would be shouting it from the rooftops,instead of hiding it like they seem to be doing.

Nobody's hiding anything - no one wants to spell out what has been requested disingenuously. Just as the rights' stated agenda (small government, strong national defense, etc) is well known by any not residing under a rock, so to is the lefts' (universal health care, rights of the dispossesed, etc).