Who Would Vote For bush Again?

Brandon9000 wrote:

Why should I? I have never once claimed that there were still WMD in Iraq, only that the history made it seem probable. For instance, Hussein had had WMD, and had later forcibly prevented inspectors from looking in certain places.

But then, the invasion didn't take place many years ago. In March 2003, were inspectors forcibly prevented from looking in certain places?

Brandon9000 wrote:

old europe wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

He did not. I defy you to find one single quotation in which the president claimed that the threat from Iraq was imminent. What he said was that he wouldn't allow a gathering threat to become imminent while he did nothing.

So when Scott McClellan, on 2/10/03, said that "This is about imminent threat." - he didn't actually mean that it was about an imminent threat, but rather meant that it was about a threat that shouldn't be allowed to become imminent?

How do you know, Brandon? Are you in close contact with Scott? Or are you not talking about the Bush administration, just about Bush? Well, how about this quote:

"The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
- President Bush, 10/2/02

Well, from Brandon's mouth, this becomes

"What he said was that he wouldn't allow a gathering threat to become imminent while he did nothing."
- Brandon9000, 03/20/06

No, this is what I was thinking of:

Quote:

Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late.
- President Bush, Jan. 2003.

Bush never said that there was imminent danger of WMD use by Iraq. He was arguing that the danger was grave and not so very far off, but he did not say that it was imminent.


Source

Okay. I can't find a quote where he uses exactly the word "imminent", so I'll go along with this statement:

Bush was talking about a threat of unique urgency, when, in fact, that was not true.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Okay, Brandon, show proof of WMDs Bush and company said we were going to stop with his illegal preemptive attack on Iraq?

Evidence only counts here.

CI,

I get it now. As I've said to the chickenhawk participants, I was unaware of the raging "debate". This one is a lock for Bush apologists. They need a defense to his fukups, and his incompetence....

Quote:

"The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
- President Bush, 10/2/02

threat
A noun
1 threat
declaration of an intention or a determination to inflict harm on another; "his threat to kill me was quite explicit"

2 threat
a warning that something unpleasant is imminent; "they were under threat of arrest"

Brandon9000 wrote:

Frankly I find it pathetic that you respond to on-topic posts with jibes about the character of the posters, unaccompanied by any on-topic response. That is never a characteristic of people in the right.

He said that with a straight face too.......

Brandon9000 wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

So, in your mind it's okay to preemptively attack another sovereign nation on "probability?" With people like you, it's no wonder this country is in this quagmire.

That is a different debate. You have claimed that Bush lied, I have asked for one single example, and so far you haven't provided one. I will be happy to debate other matters once we are finished debating whether Bush lied.

Bush was caught in a whopper today when he said that he had never connected Saddam Hussein and 9-11. Just about every talking head on CNN & MSNBC have pointed out this lie. Not only did he do it a number of times but the one that stands out is when he used it in his state of the union speech.

Bush can't open that ugly pie hole without lying.

On Thursday in Cincinnati, Ohio, Cheney described Saddam as a "man who provided safe harbor and sanctuary to terrorists for years" and who "provided safe harbor and sanctuary as well for al Qaeda."

cicerone imposter wrote:

On Thursday in Cincinnati, Ohio, Cheney described Saddam as a "man who provided safe harbor and sanctuary to terrorists for years" and who "provided safe harbor and sanctuary as well for al Qaeda."

I'm having a problem with my memory. Would you mind pointing me, please, to the quotation in which Bush asserts that Iraq played a role in 9/11?

Maybe Bush didn't come right out and say it, but him and his whole administration mislead the American people and led them to believe that Saddam was involved.

isn't that just as bad?

Brandon9000 wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

On Thursday in Cincinnati, Ohio, Cheney described Saddam as a "man who provided safe harbor and sanctuary to terrorists for years" and who "provided safe harbor and sanctuary as well for al Qaeda."

I'm having a problem with my memory. Would you mind pointing me, please, to the quotation in which Bush asserts that Iraq played a role in 9/11?

Most of us humans, being as high as we are in the evolutionary pecking order, have rudimentary intuitive powers. Do I understand you as saying that you believe George Bush and his seconds in no way tried to make a case that Hussein and 9/11 were connected? Aside from semantics, just tell me you really believe that no attempt was made to make that connection.

C'mon, Brandon - answer my question.

Maybe Bush didn't come right out and say it, but him and his whole administration mislead the American people and led them to believe that Saddam was involved.

isn't that just as bad?

I'll answer your question snoodly.

It doesn't matter what W said.

We were 12 years too late getting it done. 12 years that gave Saddam plenty of time to hide or move his WMD's and stockpile traditional weapons that are now killing our troops.

cjhsa wrote:

I'll answer your question snoodly.

It doesn't matter what W said.

We were 12 years too late getting it done. 12 years that gave Saddam plenty of time to hide or move his WMD's and stockpile traditional weapons that are now killing our troops.

On March 17, William Rivers Pitt declared Bush to be "deranged, disconnected, and dangerous."

And bu$h ain't the only one!