Canada v. US

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US Blames Canada for not keeping the Expos in Montreal.

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Canada is the best friend the US will ever have. On 9/11 Canada never asked any questions and helped its suffering neigbour more than any other country.

A short time later the US president made a speech and thanked dozens of countries for their wonderful help.

He did not thank Canada.

http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/2003/woerly/qtr3/0911.htm

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The US can be a spoiled, mean brother, but Canada bends over and takes it, so fingers can be pointed both ways.

US needs to lay-off and stop expecting such a fat cut of Canadian natural resources. Canada needs to pull up its pants and take charge.

Mad cow
Lumber
Water
...............the list goes on......

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I think the US has an image problem and that image problem resonates throughout the world, but is felt most intimately by Canadians. Many Americans swallow the propaganda that their country is superior in so many ways to Canada and other countries with little regard for how America became the sole military and economic superpower and how that status is maintained globally.
The Arab world resents the US because of their relentless pursuit of their oil resources and Canada, I'm sure, feels the same about the US position on their natural resources.

America does contribute to the global community, but it would be an absolute absurdity to claim that there is even an ounce of altruism to its actions. The US acts solely in their own interests and their explicit and implicit policies are evidence of that mandate.

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Can you tell me of one country that does not act solely in their own interests in foriegn policy?

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McGentrix wrote:

Can you tell me of one country that does not act solely in their own interests in foriegn policy?

That's a good point.
But some countries have less collective 'conscience' than others. Some screw others over more readily. Just like people.

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The US violates Canadian sovereignty in Northern waters. Canada has control of those routes and America can butt out.

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The point is not acting in self interest.
It's absurd to think that a country, say Canada, would act in the interest of, say, Mexico. it makes no sense.
A perfect illustration of this is Israel. The US is not acting as an ambassador for Israel, rather, they are acting out of a need for a near eastern ally, for themselves.
I assume that if Israel ever stepped out of line, as they have (once??) in the past, the US would treat them as they have treated any of their other bastardized puppet clients and bring favor toward the next Great American Lap Dog.

So, foreign policy and self-interest are synonymous.

The United States, even if we regard them as simply a "soft" imperialist, has a long standing reputation for taking what they want through legitimate and/or illegitimate avenues and to hell with anyone who objects.
You don't attempt to deny that if we must qualify or quantify the extent of harm done through various administrations' foreign policies, the US is in a class of it's own.

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Countries we deal with enjoy many benefits they would otherwise not have. That is a result of our capitalistic idealism and belief in free interprise.

Off the top of your head, can you name any country that you believe is being "screwed over" by the US for non-justifiable reasons?

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Akaya wrote:

The point is not acting in self interest.
It's absurd to think that a country, say Canada, would act in the interest of, say, Mexico. it makes no sense.
A perfect illustration of this is Israel. The US is not acting as an ambassador for Israel, rather, they are acting out of a need for a near eastern ally, for themselves.
I assume that if Israel ever stepped out of line, as they have (once??) in the past, the US would treat them as they have treated any of their other bastardized puppet clients and bring favor toward the next Great American Lap Dog.

So, foreign policy and self-interest are synonymous.

The United States, even if we regard them as simply a "soft" imperialist, has a long standing reputation for taking what they want through legitimate and/or illegitimate avenues and to hell with anyone who objects.
You don't attempt to deny that if we must qualify or quantify the extent of harm done through various administrations' foreign policies, the US is in a class of it's own.

can you try re phrasing this so I can understand it please.

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McGentrix wrote:

Countries we deal with enjoy many benefits they would otherwise not have. That is a result of our capitalistic idealism and belief in free interprise.

Off the top of your head, can you name any country that you believe is being "screwed over" by the US for non-justifiable reasons?

Iraq.

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The US and Canada are clearly friends and allies. While it is reasonable to expect occasional friction between neighbors, we certainly do better than say France and Germany. I agree the US government acts in the interest of the US. I hope the government of Canada acts in the interests of Canadians. My impression is that they do and do it well. Like other countries, the people of the US act in all sorts of ways. Sometimes "there is even an ounce of altruism to its actions."

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McGentrix wrote:

Countries we deal with enjoy many benefits they would otherwise not have. That is a result of our capitalistic idealism and belief in free interprise.

Off the top of your head, can you name any country that you believe is being "screwed over" by the US for non-justifiable reasons?

and who said the americans have no sense of humour?

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Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Countries we deal with enjoy many benefits they would otherwise not have. That is a result of our capitalistic idealism and belief in free interprise.

Off the top of your head, can you name any country that you believe is being "screwed over" by the US for non-justifiable reasons?

and who said the americans have no sense of humour?

I hope that's what it is, and I haven't been drinking too much Blue beer to catch on. Laughing

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So, foreign policy and self-interest are synonymous.

The problem with the world...

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Off the top of my head? I would say Cuba might be near the top of the list.

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flushd wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Countries we deal with enjoy many benefits they would otherwise not have. That is a result of our capitalistic idealism and belief in free interprise.

Off the top of your head, can you name any country that you believe is being "screwed over" by the US for non-justifiable reasons?

Iraq.

So, lets discuss Iraq.

In my humble opinion, Iraq will weather the insurgency storm and be a better country as a result. I understand that right now things look bleak, but freedom comes with a price. Some people like to blame the US invasion for everything wrong in Iraq, but I am not one of them. I blame the insurgents and terrorists trying to destabilize the country because they see freedom and democracy as a threat to their beliefs. Well, F them. They are a small minority with an archaic mentality.

35 years of oppression and 3 major wars will have a negative impact on a country. I don't see Iraq as having been "screwed over".

So, why not share your thoughts on how you think they have.

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McGentrix, there are plenty of threads here which explore various views on the situation in Iraq. I don't want to get into a battle about it, bc it is besides the point of THIS thread.

It is enough for me to say that I believe the US has made a cruel move in their relations to Iraq. I believe their intentions and motives are self-centered, they cause suffering, and are intrusive.

You believe the actions are justifiable. I understand why you feel that way, but I disagree.

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McGentrix wrote:

Countries we deal with enjoy many benefits they would otherwise not have. That is a result of our capitalistic idealism and belief in free interprise.

Like the benefits of child labor by Nike in Pakistan, the Gap in greater China, Southeast Asia and the Indian subcontinent...or perhaps like Bechtel in Bolivia?
Mostly capitalizing on the dire situations in developing countries, American corporations exploit whomever they can under the guise of providing them with "many benefits they would otherwise not have".
If and when the workers demand more or if wages get too high, they simply move elsewhere more needy and less demanding.

This is the result of our capitalistic idealism and belief in free enterprise. Of course, there is nothing ideal about it, unless your an American business owner, and there's nothing free about it, in any sense of the word. By design, it benefits American interests and American interests only--so as you have earlier mentioned, as with American foreign policy, so goes the mandate for American business. Look out for your interests, to hell with what happens on the periphery.

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