Is there anything that the U.S. doesn't get blamed for?

stevewonder wrote:

Hey the US doesnt get blamed for spread of World peace or eradcation of poverty, signing treaties to combat pollution etc

You mean like the defeat of Hitler or the Soviets?

Given is size and influence, the US as it stands, has contributed least to the world than any other civilization (if I can be so bold as to use that term.)

stevewonder wrote:

Given is size and influence, the US as it stands, has contributed least to the world than any other civilization (if I can be so bold as to use that term.)

Please provide some evidence to back this up.

Also, what do you mean by, "if I can be so bold as to use that term?"

Brandon9000 wrote:

stevewonder wrote:

Given is size and influence, the US as it stands, has contributed least to the world than any other civilization (if I can be so bold as to use that term.)

Please provide some evidence to back this up.

Also, what do you mean by, "if I can be so bold as to use that term?"

...And proof, as if proof where needed, is right here on this forum, that clowns can come on here and try to 'explain how the US has 'liberated' iraq when every mule knows it is and has always been about the gas just says it all for me.

Brandon9000 wrote:

stevewonder wrote:

Given is size and influence, the US as it stands, has contributed least to the world than any other civilization (if I can be so bold as to use that term.)

Please provide some evidence to back this up.

Also, what do you mean by, "if I can be so bold as to use that term?"

Its difficult to prove a negative, but let me re-word the above. The US given its size and control over the globe, relative to previous civilizations, has contributed diddley squat to the world., other than sacks of horse **** i.e Mcdees and Levis jean, mTv and cocca cola. It is succeeding in making its own people into 'dysfunctional morons/zombies' (suited to working only in Walmart) and exporting that tripe to the rest of the world. The world is not and has not progressed because of the US in civility or humanity but has regressed.

And proof, as if proof where needed, is right here on this forum, that clowns can come on here and try to 'explain how the US has 'liberated' iraq when every mule knows it is and has always been about the gas just says it all for me.

Maybe it's time that USA, UK & other interlopers quit Iraq, stayed at home & stopped playing World Cop & simply kept our noses out of it.
It's impossible to impose western democratic ideology on these Arab/Muslim nations. They don't want to be clones of Western culture. Let 'em get on with their own way of things. They can stay out of our way & we can stay out of theirs.
Meanwhile we'd better change our shoes, pronto

2. Under no circumstances are we to allow any major oil producing nation to sell their oil in any currency other than U.S. dollars. To do otherwise would be a threat to our economic stability. Iraq, Iraq and Venezuela must be punished for trying to destroy America by selling their oil in euros.

5. It is our solemn duty to bring democracy to this planet. Democracy is the greatest institution created by America. It was a gift given to America by God. From America it has spread to most of the civilized nations. Unfortunately there are still some nations that do not see Gods gift to mankind and it is our duty, as good Christians, to compel all oil producing nations to have democracy. Venezuela and Iran are not democratic. Yes, they held elections but the government that was elected is not beholden to us for all the gifts we have given to mankind. Surely the people of those countries, that love America dearly, would never elect such a hostile government. Therefore we can honestly conclude that the elections were frauds and the people are oppressed. It is our duty to free these oppressed people and instill a government that will sell their oil in dollars. Only then will we know they are free.

You're such an idealist, Brandon. So refreshing. I'm just curious: What it they choose a pro-Iranian group to run Iraq? It's entirely possible they will...

The spread of Democracy is good.

oralloy wrote:

The spread of Democracy is good.

But not if the people elect the wrong sort of government.

Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

oralloy wrote:

The spread of Democracy is good.

But not if the people elect the wrong sort of government.

No, it's always good. All people deserve to be in control of their government.

D'artagnan wrote:

You're such an idealist, Brandon. So refreshing. I'm just curious: What it they choose a pro-Iranian group to run Iraq? It's entirely possible they will...

I think that is unlikely.

...I think it's time to let these people just slaughter each other and thin the herd personally. I nhave tried and tried to be empathetic to the ordinary citizen and part of me still is but this is not going to get better, gwb's bullshit isn't going to change anythiong. Even Jesus, who apparently directs gwb's every move, said you can't save the world.

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

late to the thread as usual... although it is certainly the fault of the extremist pieces of **** who did the bombing, here's a tip... If you walk around the world like a bull in a China shop. telling everyone you're the only one that's right about anything.... taking credit for everything and expecting the world to play by rules you don't, then you'd better be prepared to also take the blame for everything that goes wrong.

I think it's time to let these people just slaughter each other and thin the herd personally. I nhave tried and tried to be empathetic to the ordinary citizen and part of me still is but this is not going to get better, gwb's bullshit isn't going to change anythiong. Even Jesus, who apparently directs gwb's every move, said you can't save the world.

I see. hmm... If you can't make everything go perfectly, why even try anything at all?

PoetSeductress wrote:

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

late to the thread as usual... although it is certainly the fault of the extremist pieces of **** who did the bombing, here's a tip... If you walk around the world like a bull in a China shop. telling everyone you're the only one that's right about anything.... taking credit for everything and expecting the world to play by rules you don't, then you'd better be prepared to also take the blame for everything that goes wrong.

I think it's time to let these people just slaughter each other and thin the herd personally. I nhave tried and tried to be empathetic to the ordinary citizen and part of me still is but this is not going to get better, gwb's bullshit isn't going to change anythiong. Even Jesus, who apparently directs gwb's every move, said you can't save the world.

I see. hmm... If you can't make everything go perfectly, why even try anything at all?

don't fall off that high horse sweetheart ....

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

PoetSeductress wrote:

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

late to the thread as usual... although it is certainly the fault of the extremist pieces of **** who did the bombing, here's a tip... If you walk around the world like a bull in a China shop. telling everyone you're the only one that's right about anything.... taking credit for everything and expecting the world to play by rules you don't, then you'd better be prepared to also take the blame for everything that goes wrong.

I think it's time to let these people just slaughter each other and thin the herd personally. I nhave tried and tried to be empathetic to the ordinary citizen and part of me still is but this is not going to get better, gwb's bullshit isn't going to change anythiong. Even Jesus, who apparently directs gwb's every move, said you can't save the world.

I see. hmm... If you can't make everything go perfectly, why even try anything at all?

don't fall off that high horse sweetheart ....

Thank you, bluevein, I'll try not to. But even if I did, I would eventually get back on it again, learn from the mistakes, and ride better than before..