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The Truth About Iraq according to the Cheneys

 
 
Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 02:03 pm
The Truth About Iraq--according to the Cheneys

In next week's edition of The Weekly Standard, Dick and Liz Cheney push again their discredited version of the Truth in regard to our invasion of Iraq and our rationalization thereof, the liberation of Iraq as part of "the larger war" against jihadist terrorists.

Also, they blame President Obama for "creating a vacuum in which ISIS, the richest terrorist organization in history, now thrives."

Oh, and according to them, "those who say the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a mistake are essentially saying we would be better off if Saddam Hussein were still in power."


It's pretty pathetic how these people hang on to their obfuscations and outright lies about the invasion that they sold the nation on.

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As the jihadists of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) capture territory and establish a caliphate stretching across the now-eradicated Syria-Iraq border, hard-won gains secured with American blood and treasure are being lost. We are watching the rise of potentially the gravest threat to our national security in a generation, one that surpasses even the threat we faced on 9/11. Against this backdrop, as we debate what our response should be, it has become fashionable in some quarters to say, “Let’s not relitigate Iraq.” It’s not politically expedient, this line of argument goes, to discuss why we invaded Iraq in the first place, or the lessons we learned. This view is wrong on the history, misguided on the politics, and dangerous as a matter of policy.

The larger war, of which the liberation of Iraq was part, is still ongoing. Winning it requires that we understand the truth about the liberation of Iraq, the challenges America faced in the aftermath of the invasion, how we overcame them with the 2007-08 surge, how we defeated Al Qaeda in Iraq and established a stable, functioning nation allied with America in the heart of the Middle East. We must understand how President Obama squandered it all, creating a vacuum in which ISIS, the richest terrorist organization in history, now thrives.

It is undisputed, and has been confirmed repeatedly in Iraqi government documents captured after the invasion, that Saddam had deep, longstanding, far-reaching relationships with terrorist organizations, including al Qaeda and its affiliates. It is undisputed that Saddam’s Iraq was a state based on terror, overseeing a coordinated program to support global jihadist terrorist organizations. Ansar al Islam, an al Qaeda-linked organization, operated training camps in northern Iraq before the invasion. Abu Musab al Zarqawi, the future leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq, funneled weapons and fighters into these camps, before the invasion, from his location in Baghdad. We also know, again confirmed in documents captured after the war, that Saddam provided funding, training, and other support to numerous terrorist organizations and individuals over decades, including to Ayman al Zawahiri, the man who leads al Qaeda today.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 02:14 pm
It sickens me that the Cheneys are walking the good ground, breathing air, while so many thousands died as a result of their miscalculations.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 02:57 pm
@edgarblythe,
Ever notice how these soulless psychopaths always manage to wrap themselves in the flag.

The world over.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 03:10 pm
Absolutely No Remorse. https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtx6bsAgOKxcNRO6x2NPawPK23VqwDrJ7K9MT4mCg4bY0gtNk3GQ

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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 05:26 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
discredited . . . obfuscations . . . outright lies

"Doing something that the Left doesn't like" does not equate to dishonesty.

"The fact that the Left does not like something" does not mean it has been discredited.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 10:09 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
discredited . . . obfuscations . . . outright lies

"Doing something that the Left doesn't like" does not equate to dishonesty.

"The fact that the Left does not like something" does not mean it has been discredited.

The 9/11 Commission Report discredited Cheney's assertions, your unattributed quote notwithstanding.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 10:46 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
your unattributed quote notwithstanding.

That wasn't a quote. That was sentence organization. Think of those quotes as acting like parentheses do in a math equation.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 08:51 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
your unattributed quote notwithstanding.

That wasn't a quote. That was sentence organization. Think of those quotes as acting like parentheses do in a math equation.

Sentence organization, huh? M'KAY.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 08:57 am
@InfraBlue,
I honestly don't get how they can continue to lie fox viewers (for lack of a better term) just keep hanging on to those lies in spite of the evidence against it. It is like they live in a bubble world with their own version of reality with a circular line of "evidence" to back it up.

Sort of like in the lead up to the election, most polls were showing that Obama was ahead of Romney, but they claimed the polls were skewed and they continued to believe it well into the night with Rove even arguing with someone on fox news.

In short, some of them, are just nuts.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 09:21 am
@revelette2,
Halliburton and Count Cheney fed well on the blood of American soldiers and the Iraqi population..

$100 per soldier for a bag of laundry, $45 for a 6pack of coke etc etc etc
They fleeced the American tax-payer on the back of a bullshit war, but all we'll hear about is costly social and health services and of course Hells spawn, single mothers.


Is there such a thing as financial treason in the US?, if not why not?.
revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 09:27 am
@eurocelticyankee,
Quote:
Hells spawn, single mothers.


Question

Anyway, probably for the Cheney's a good deal of it is financial, but I honestly think they really believe what they keep saying.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 09:35 am
@revelette2,
Here in Ireland and I suspect in other countries single mothers who need help from social services are singled out and vilified by the holier than thous and are always an easy target for government.


As for Cheney believing what he says, I'm of the opinion that he is a socio/psychopath so believing or disbelieving doesn't really come into it.
revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 10:02 am
@eurocelticyankee,
Ok, didn't realize what you meant. I am not sure in regards to single mothers being singled out here in this day and age. I think we just consign all those who receive government assistance as moochers or in the last election I think the phrase was "takers."

Yeah, Kind of agree in regards to Cheney.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 02:56 pm
@revelette2,
Rev, have you read the history of brain washing? Germany started it and the state of Russia perfected it. The usa has continued it through the corporate owned media. Just keep repeating the lies every day on every station and it becomes truth in the minds of the gullible and in the not so gullible.
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