ican711nm wrote:blatham wrote:
Well, you've just stepped over the line into hopeless.
There you go again avoiding the question with childish accusations. That is the standard behavior of the Soros gang and impresses only fellow members of the Soros gang or Soros gang sympathizers.
Where in that e-mail you posted is there what you alleged to be the correct alternate version of what Pariser said--that is, an alternate to what was quoted in their book "Shadow party" by Horowitz and Poe:
"Now it's our party. We bought it, we own it"?
Where is your evidence that Horowitz and Poe quoted Pariser incorrectly and your e-mail quoted Pariser correctly?
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You're lazy. You restrict your reading to sources which won't challenge your set of ideas because, I suppose, you prefer simple answers. And if that wasn't enough to make you really annoying to speak with, your disregard for anything like order or sequence in how you think through a discussion like this would do the trick.
!) You made a claim regarding Soros' influence (achieved through his money) of major media.
2) I asked for evidence for that claim.
3) you pasted a quote a Pariser email. Moveon is not, of course, "major media", but your laziness didn't bother with that detail.
4) I asked for the citation
5) you pasted a portion of a book by Horowitz which contained a line or two (or portions) from the original email. But your implication and Horowitz's was that Soros had bought the Dem party and this was Pariser bragging about it.
6) I pasted the full email (no reason to assume it was not the full email as it came from a right wing site, after all). The context of that email shows that Horowitz and you have no grounds to make the implication you made. And that is obvious, unless you are just too invested in your own set of ideas that nothing will change them (a real possibility). I also pasted information on where Moveon gets its money to help you along (and let's not forget that we were talking originally about something else entirely...major media, not activist groups like Moveon). I did not say that Horowitz or you misquoted. I gave you that email to demonstrate that the implication advanced by either of you isn't supported by the text.
7) you jumped off a cliff inside your noggin, or something like that. I expressed the opinion, well founded, that carrying on with you was hopeless.
Now. I'll give you one last chance for any further conversation with me at all. First, go back and address your initial claim (Soros controlling major media) and see if you can find some evidence (please don't make me define that simple word) to support the claim. If you can't, then face it and admit it. Second, give me just the briefest glimmer of hope that you comprehend that when Horowitz quotes a portion of a line from the email and when I find (what we have no reason to assume is not) the full email (posted on a right wing site, we'll recall) that for you to then insist some burden of proof lands on me is the most idiotic thing you wrote that day.
