If you Like Your Freedoms, Thank a Protestor

well gee, amigo... you know that this president hates bad news. gotta keep those nasty little dissenters as far away from his holiness as possible. might bum out his day or sumthin'...

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I remember them threatening to hurt people and throw stuff on the GOP attendees.

They got their free speech.

They just didn't get to do it in throwing distance of people they threatened to physically attack.

Do you remember some of the things that were said around that time?

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Please show me where it says in the constitution that you have a right to be heard?

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A simple google search will tell you that it is written in the US Constitution. It's the First Amendment.

Try typing in constitution and free speech. It's all there. Didn't you pass Civics in high school?

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Lash wrote:

I remember them threatening to hurt people and throw stuff on the GOP attendees.

They got their free speech.

They just didn't get to do it in throwing distance of people they threatened to physically attack.

Do you remember some of the things that were said around that time?

Lash,

You're quite right. Peaceful protesters are allowed all the free speech they want.

They're just too far away from the Prez to be heard. The right to assemble is the First Amendment, or was. Did the Bush cabal change that too? Rolling Eyes

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pachelbel wrote:

A simple google search will tell you that it is written in the US Constitution. It's the First Amendment.

Try typing in constitution and free speech. It's all there. Didn't you pass Civics in high school?

WRONG!!!!!

Here is what the first amendment says...

Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Now,where is the right to be heard???
If you have the right to be heartd,then you have to stop and listen to all the street corner preachers,mental patients with their ramblings,and everyone else.
Do you stop and listen every time someone gets on their soapbox and says whatever crosses their mind?

If you dont,then arent you violating their "right to be heard" that you just said exists?

You have the right to freedom of speech,but that does not mean you have the right to be heard.
There is a difference.

So,I ask again,where is the right to be heard?

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They assembled.

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If You Mistrust Your Freedoms, Shoot a Protestor!

It seems to me there are just too many freedoms going on around here and the Churches and Government gotta step in and do something about it. Pronto!

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My freedoms are perfect! No one touch them!!!

Smile

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mysteryman wrote:

You have the right to freedom of speech,but that does not mean you have the right to be heard.

geez.. i knew that's what you were setting up for.

i'm starting to know you too well mystery. Laughing

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DontTreadOnMe wrote:

mysteryman wrote:
You have the right to freedom of speech,but that does not mean you have the right to be heard.

geez.. i knew that's what you were setting up for.

i'm starting to know you too well mystery.

Now that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling...LOL

My point is,the protesters that were cordoned off away from the President or the party conventions were NOT denied their right to freedom of speech,nor were they denied their right to assemble.

They could say whatever they wanted,but nobody had to listen,nor is there a right to be heard.

So,why complaint about the protesters rights being violated?

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If you protest about valid concerns and you are not heard, then what's the point of having freedom of speech? Why not just take it out of the Constitution? Might as well.

To cordone off only the anti-Bush group smacks of Hitlerian tactics. That's what the Storm Troopers were about. Heil Bush, eh?

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pachelbel wrote:

If you protest about valid concerns and you are not heard, then what's the point of having freedom of speech? Why not just take it out of the Constitution? Might as well.

Bah. You can shout 'Bush Sucks!' anytime you want without fear of arrest or imprisonment. There are plenty of countries where that isn't an option.

Er, well, in regards to saying their ruler sucks. I'm sure noone out there would arrest you for shouting 'Bush Sucks!' anyway.

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Questioner wrote:

pachelbel wrote:
If you protest about valid concerns and you are not heard, then what's the point of having freedom of speech? Why not just take it out of the Constitution? Might as well.

Bah. You can shout 'Bush Sucks!' anytime you want without fear of arrest or imprisonment. There are plenty of countries where that isn't an option.

Er, well, in regards to saying their ruler sucks. I'm sure noone out there would arrest you for shouting 'Bush Sucks!' anyway.

Apparently you didn't read about the couple who were arrested in the states for wearing T-shirts that were anti Bush. I can google it if you want proof. God help anyone who actually shouts anti bushisms in His presence.

I live in Canada. If anyone says Bush Sucks or Buck Fush around here- they get cheers Laughing

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pachelbel wrote:

If you protest about valid concerns and you are not heard, then what's the point of having freedom of speech? Why not just take it out of the Constitution? Might as well.

To cordone off only the anti-Bush group smacks of Hitlerian tactics. That's what the Storm Troopers were about. Heil Bush, eh?

But its not just the anti Bush protesters.
At the last Democrat party Convention,the protesters there were cordoned off also.

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mysteryman wrote:

Please show me where it says in the constitution that you have a right to be heard?

This has got to be among the top 3 screwiest things i've ever heard.

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Amigo wrote:

mysteryman wrote:
Please show me where it says in the constitution that you have a right to be heard?
This has got to be among the top 3 screwiest things i've ever heard.

Why?
Is there a right to be heard in the constitution?
If there isnt,then why all the fuss about the protestors not being heard?

As for " top 3 screwiest things i've ever heard",I think this answer from pachelbel tops that...

"A simple google search will tell you that it is written in the US Constitution. It's the First Amendment.

Try typing in constitution and free speech. It's all there. Didn't you pass Civics in high school?"

There is no constitutional right to be heard,but there is one to free speech.
The 2 are not mutually exclusive.

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Mysteryman, I have to thank you. You saved me some time. With some people on A2K it took me awhile to see I was waisting my time. With you it only took two post.

I'm ignoring you, your crazy.

P.S. Freedom of assembly

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amigo,
First of all,I dont give a damn what you think of me.Your opinion is totally irrelevant to how I live my life.

If a question bothers you that much,dont answer it.

Secondly,"freedom of asembly"?
You are right,you have the right to assemble with whoever you choose.

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mysteryman wrote:

amigo,
First of all,I dont give a damn what you think of me.Your opinion is totally irrelevant to how I live my life.

Then why are you responding to him?

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