If you Like Your Freedoms, Thank a Protestor

I probably see things this way: If you like your freedoms, be ever vigilant to protect them. And be prepared to protest, to act, should those freedoms be threatened.

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pachelbel wrote:

They asked Pontius Pilate to kill him.

They do not believe or worship the New Testament.

They think he's a great teacher but not the son of God. He's in there with Buddha and Mohammad.

What other proof do you want, other than they have been kicked out of every Christian nation in the past.

Still past youranus?

A peculiar rationale addressing myth with myth.

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pachelbel,

Did you read the link I provided for that?

I sure wish some people would make up their minds. First they say Jesus is all about love and not violence of any kind and now He's an activist? Rather confusing I must say.

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Let's see, we can start with these supposed broken laws, and if you have any Lash, you can post yours and we can check them out too. Ok with you?

http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jesusignorelaw.html

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These seasoned prophets of the prairie subscribe to the civil disobedience model of social change because they believe it to be rooted in the biblical teachings of a radical, nonviolent, egalitarian Jesus Christ.

"It is very much a part of the Christian tradition to speak the truth to the powers that be and to break the law," proclaims Cordaro, citing the Palm Sunday and temple cleansing stories from the New Testament as evidence.

DID YOU CATCH THE PART ABOUT RADICAL TEACHINGS, AS WELL AS NONVIOLENCE, OF JESUS IN THE ARTICLE! Yes, I am shouting because you are not paying attention. You can have protests without violence. These people are peacefully protesting, yet getting arrested.

Since when did America, I'll ask again, have a NO FREE SPEECH ZONE? Since Bush. Go figure.

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Hi pachelbel,

As discussed where are the credible historian's accounts *at the time* of such a preeminent and prominent figure as Jesus?

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Jesus was a carpenter wasn't he? Pounded nails and all that. What else did he do?

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msolga wrote:

I probably see things this way: If you like your freedoms, be ever vigilant to protect them. And be prepared to protest, to act, should those freedoms be threatened.

You got it. :wink:

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This has gone a bit S & R. I'm out of my depth here, I'm afraid. Bye for now.

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He diluted wine with water.

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Chumly wrote:

Hi pachelbel,

As discussed where are the credible historian's accounts *at the time* of such a preeminent and prominent figure as Jesus?

This was addressed to Lash not Pachelbel. All these Christians are blurring into a horde, I'd better anoint myself with oils, so I can slide on by.

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msolga wrote:

Momma, if this is correct, I'm very heartened:

It was the cult of sacrifice that Jesus tried to dismantle, not the system of monetary exchange. In all three gospel accounts of the event, those who provided the animals for sacrifice are mentioned first: they were the primary focus of Christ's outrage.

A stand against animal sacrifice. How truly enlightened. But gosh, can you imagine if Animal Liberation or some other animal welfare group expressed their outrage toward similar acts of animal cruelty in this way, today? Now, they would be called extremists & would be promptly prosecuted! ! Seriously.

Actually, PETA and similar groups like them, who try to protect those who cannot speak for themselves, are on Bush's terrorist list. Geez.

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No need to shout Pachebel. I understood it just fine. I said I draw the line at breaking the law. Guess you missed that part?

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LTX--

Pork rinds and the winning ticket are here waiting for you! Wink

Pick up a movie on your way over.

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Momma Angel wrote:

Amigo,

I'm nuts? Hmmm. What kind? Cashew or peanut?

Lash,

Christ was a radical in the sense He was so against the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and the Scribes. However, He was not about rallying protesting groups together to overthrow the government. His laws were above mans' laws and those are the laws He wanted instilled.

He did not come to set up a physical literal kingdom on this earth. His kingdom is a kingdom of the spirit. So, I think it's important to define the type of radical one calls Christ. :wink:

Protesters are trying to overthrow the government???? Thats news to me and I'm a protest organizer.

Jesus was a radical because he directly challenged the Authority of the ROMAN EMPIRE.

Man through religion is the false profit. The majority of Christians will follow the false profit and those that didn't even realize they were christians will end up resisting the false profit. Many Christians think they can get to god through the religions of man. But god comes only through the heart.

How do you prey for the chidren of Iraq and then worship the men that deliver hell to them with your christian vote.

The Protsters are not popular but I would rather be surounded by "police" with a M-16, real, plastic and rubber bullets, Clubs, tassers in the "Free speach zones like the christians surrounded Romans.

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Well, nothing like taking a statement and blowing it way out of proportion. I said He was not a radical in the sense that He wasn't trying to overthrow the government as many thought He should.

Are you a Christian, Amigo? I am assuming you are because you are saying what the majority of Christians will do and what many Christians think? I assume you have some personal experience and knowledge of this?

I don't worship any man, Amigo. And just for your information I did not vote for President Bush.

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And just for your information, with all due respect, this is not the S&R thread.

It is concerning the right to free speech in America.

Do you, as Americans, wish to see that right erode? Because it is.

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Pachelbel,

You think the right to free speech is eroding in America? Seems to me it's being pretty much stretched to the limits.

Do you have some specifics?

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Amigo,

You don't need to be a Christian to be in this conversation, and you certainly shouldn't worry about anyone's definition of such.

This isn't the friggin Inquisition!

Chumly--

OK, back now. But, you know everything I'm going to say. You've seen this very conversation before-- featuring me and Set, eh? You just choose to discount those guys.

So, you don't have to believe Jesus lived. Hows that?

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I spelled prophet profit. Thats embarrassing. I know more then you know Mamma and it took alot of soul searching. I didn't just walk into church and say "Give me my ticket to heaven and tell me how to think"

As life on earth progresses life for men of god (or men just trying to do the right thing) will get harder not easier.

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