Ticomaya- Here is what Pachelbol did not provide--
Poles Tackle the Topic
Newsweek Polska, the magazine's Polish edition, published a short piece on the "Bush Nazi past" in its March 5, 2003 edition. The item reported that "the Bush family reaped rewards from the forced-labor prisoners in the Auschwitz concentration camp," according to a copyrighted English-language translation from Scoop Media (www.scoop.co.nz). The story also reported the seizure of the various Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.
Still Not Interested
Major U.S. media outlets, including ABC News, NBC News, The New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Los Angeles Times and Miami Herald, have repeatedly declined to investigate the story when information regarding discovery of the documents was presented to them beginning Friday, August 29. Newsweek U.S. correspondent Michael Isikoff, famous for his reporting of big scoops during the Clinton-Lewinsky sexual affair of the 1990s, declined twice to accept an exclusive story based on the documents from the archives.
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The reason the Major U. S. media outlets( WHICH, AS YOU ARE AWARE ARE ALL STRICTLY CONTROLLED BY THE RIGHT WING AND NEVER EVER PRINT ANYTHING THAT IS ANTI-BUSH OR ANTI-REPUBLICAN) did not print the "story" is that the documents may be forged, Non-existent, or not credible.
Pacelbol is the same person who became engraged when I pointed out that more people immigrated to the US in the twentieth century than vice versa.
His avatar is telling---what you see is what you get!!!
Newsweek is nothing but a bunch of Bush hating terrorist sympathizers. I know, I read it, not because I subscribe to it, but because somebody gives theirs to me when they are done with it. I would never pay for the garbage.
okie wrote:Newsweek is nothing but a bunch of Bush hating terrorist sympathizers. I know, I read it, not because I subscribe to it, but because somebody gives theirs to me when they are done with it. I would never pay for the garbage.
Okay, but please tell me you feel just a
little twinge telling you that you exaggerate a
little when you accuse Newsweek magazine of being "terrorist sympathizers".....
please?
I admit to a bit of exaggeration, but seriously, when I read the rag, it irritates me big time. The pictures are obviously selected to make Bush and the United States to look bad and terrorists look good.
Example: Issue August 28, 2006, the front cover says "A Plot Against Airlines. Bin Laden at Large. Iraq in Flames. Five Years After 9/11. Are We Any Safer?
Tell me those headlines on the cover are not selected and crafted to make it answer the question asked that we are not safer. Other words could have been selected to make it sound like we are. There are large differences of opinion on this, and it is obvious where Newsweek's opinions are.
Inside the magazine, I will pick just one article, titled "The Real Nasrallah, How a son of Beirut's slums became one of the most engaging, and dangerous, leaders in the Muslim world."
"Engaging?" Really. Interesting choice of words, Newsweek. In the article, he is described as growing up poor, but very "smart," and although he wears robes of a cleric, he is a "world class politician." The article says the "U.S. Government defines him as a terrorist." Hmmmm....I guess Newsweek does not? He is also described as "charismatic" and his guerilla force (not terrorist forces) has accomplished something that no Arab Army has ever done, stood up to the power of Israel's vaunted military. Also, the "Hizbullah leader has played brilliantly on the sense of honor that is so important for many Arabs and Muslims." Well, really, what honor is Newsweek talking about here?
I could go into more detail of the article, but I think you get the drift that Nasrallah is admired by the writers in Newsweek and complemented for his smarts, his political skills, his charisma, his accomplishments, and his playing to the honor of Arabs. The article chronicles his humble beginnings to the rise of his great accomplishments today.
In contrast, any article written about George Bush is pretty much 180 degrees the other way. George Bush is a lying scoundrel that is dumb and has no honor, does not have much support among Americans or the world, has made all the wrong decisions, and only cares about his crooked oil buddies.
No doubt, the liberal fringe agrees with Newsweek. So Snood, where do you stand? Do you agree with Newsweek, or do you care about the country you live in. Would you rather go live where Nasrallah could be your vaunted leader, as the Newsweek authors evidently would?
Okie- Ignore Snood. He has never been able to read an Issue of Newsweek!!!!
Okie- Newsweek is left wing. Everyone knows that. When I have tried to refer to National Review, I was told--"right wing" "right wing"
Snood knows NOTHING about "Newsweek".
Who is the CEO of Newsweek, Okie?
It is none other than Donald Graham--and who is Donald Graham?--The chairman of the Board of THE WASHINGTON POST.
AND IF YOU WANT A LEFT WING TWIST--CHECK WITH THE WASHINGTON POST, ESPECIALLY THE EDITORIALS!!
and, who, Okie, writes for it?
l.Eleanor Clift---She was so pro-Clinton that she would have taken Monica's place in a heartbeat--A mindless far left winger.
2. Anna Quindlen--She is so far left she makes Catherine McKinnon look like a moderate
3. Jonathan Elter-Has never written a balanced article on anyone in the Republican camp.
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It is clear, Okie, that Snood is completely ignorant of Newsweek's built in bias but then I am not surprised. He is ignorant about almost every topic on these threads.
Ticomaya wrote:Ticomaya wrote:pachelbel wrote:
oh look! An article from NEWSWEEK - the magazine you quote often to me! Maybe you should CALL them and check this out! They could be lying
newsweek article on
Bush/Nazi connection
"Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951" - Federal Documents
Karl Rove's grandfather was Karl Heinz Roverer, the Gauleiter of Oldenburg. Roverer was Reich-Statthalter---Nazi State Party Chairman---for his region. He was also a partner and senior engineer in the Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurburo A. G. engineering firm, which built the Birkenau death camp,
figure it out, dumkopf. First you quote Newsweek to me then you rebut an article from them.
Please provide the link to Newsweek.
It appears the article you posted was written by John Buchanan and Stacey Michael, and first published in The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 3, November 7, 2003.
LINK
Still waiting on that link, pachelbel.
But you won't be providing it, will you?
Well, yes I will.....been out having some fun with my boat. I don't sit in front of a computer screen all day, ya know
You are correct in that the article was written by John Buchanan, first published Nov. 2003. It was a translation from Newsweek Polska (June 2003 ed. I believe). The Nat'l Archives & Library of Congress revealed that Prescott Bush served as business partner of and US banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine 1926-1942 when Congress (this should be easy to check out & I will, unless someone else does it first) took aggressive action against Bush and his 'enemy national partners'.
I found 9,180 hits on the 'net for 'prescott bush harriman nazi'. I don't have time to check them all out. I should think that the National Archives and Library of Congress, as well as Congress intervening would be easy to check.
Naturally, this type of information is not something the Bush's want made public so a bit of digging is in order. But you guys are good at that, aren't you?
Meanwhile,
www.geocities.com, www.coat.ncg.ca/our_magazines/links www. illuminati-new.com/bush-nazi-connection
www.nycny.com/columns/guests/lederman and
www.btinternet.com all have info on this subject. As well I'm not paying $20 for a Newsweek online subscription to get archival information. If you know another way to get it, go for it.
Yes, Pachelbol, but you don't give us any details--Who is Prescott Bush and just EXACTLY what did he do.
Now you are the expert so tell us EXACTLY WHAT PRESCOTT BUSH DID AND HOW HE DID IT AND WHEN HE DID.
You wrote:
ed.. The Nat'l Archives & Library of Congress revealed that Prescott Bush served as business partner of and US banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine 1926-1942 when Congress (this should be easy to check out & I will, unless someone else does it first) took aggressive action against Bush and his 'enemy national partners'.
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l. Exactly who was Prescott Bush?
2. Who exactly was the US Banking Operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine?
3. Who exactly was the financial Architect of the Nazi War Machine?
4.What action did Congress take against Prescott Bush and his "enemy national partners"?
Can you answer these critical questions? If you can't, I must then assume you are ignorant about important details in your own post.
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The dates 1926-1942 are mentioned.
1926?
According to the book referenced by most scholars as the best History of Germany in English--"The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich" by William L. Shirer, Hitler did not come into power until 1932.
Furthermore, in an exhaustive study of Hitler's Germany, Shirer does not ever mention anyone named Prescott Bush--(Probably because he was "PAID OFF"
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Answer the questions above or go back to your rowboat-Pachebil!
Oh for chrissakes I'm not going to do your homework for you like mommy. Look up my post #2212865 Wednesday Aug 16, 2006, 10:20 p.m. and it will answer your questions. It's a few pages back
You are the ignorant one, bernie ole man, if you don't know any of this information. You really have not heard of Prescott Bush? Which cave have you been living in? Wherever you've been, you have managed to stay astonishingly stupid! I suppose that's some kind of achievement.
I wish I did have a rowboat. It would be cheaper on gas. Sigh. One gets to like these big boats........yawn.......time for bed for me.
You're welcome to stay up and read my post that you should have read before you shot off your piehole.
Note: If you don't know how to do internet searches, ask your grandkids.
you should have no problem finding info on any of Bush's illustrious relatives
I know what the links say- Pachelbul, but they don't answer the questions I need answered. Since you think you are an expert in the subject I will ask you again.
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Yes, Pachelbol, but you don't give us any details--Who is Prescott Bush and just EXACTLY what did he do.
Now you are the expert so tell us EXACTLY WHAT PRESCOTT BUSH DID AND HOW HE DID IT AND WHEN HE DID.
You wrote:
ed.. The Nat'l Archives & Library of Congress revealed that Prescott Bush served as business partner of and US banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine 1926-1942 when Congress (this should be easy to check out & I will, unless someone else does it first) took aggressive action against Bush and his 'enemy national partners'.
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l. Exactly who was Prescott Bush?
2. Who exactly was the US Banking Operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine?
3. Who exactly was the financial Architect of the Nazi War Machine?
4.What action did Congress take against Prescott Bush and his "enemy national partners"?
Can you answer these critical questions? If you can't, I must then assume you are ignorant about important details in your own post.
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The dates 1926-1942 are mentioned.
1926?
According to the book referenced by most scholars as the best History of Germany in English--"The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich" by William L. Shirer, Hitler did not come into power until 1932.
Furthermore, in an exhaustive study of Hitler's Germany, Shirer does not ever mention anyone named Prescott Bush--(Probably because he was "PAID OFF"
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Answer the questions above or go back to your rowboat-Pachebil!
okie wrote:Example: Issue August 28, 2006, the front cover says "A Plot Against Airlines. Bin Laden at Large. Iraq in Flames. Five Years After 9/11. Are We Any Safer?
Tell me those headlines on the cover are not selected and crafted to make it answer the question asked that we are not safer.
Sure is nice to know that conservative news stations, such as Fox, would never stoop so low as to do something like that.
pachelbel wrote:Oh for chrissakes I'm not going to do your homework for you like mommy. Look up my post #2212865 Wednesday Aug 16, 2006, 10:20 p.m. and it will answer your questions. It's a few pages back
You are the ignorant one, bernie ole man, if you don't know any of this information. You really have not heard of Prescott Bush? Which cave have you been living in? Wherever you've been, you have managed to stay astonishingly stupid! I suppose that's some kind of achievement.
I wish I did have a rowboat. It would be cheaper on gas. Sigh. One gets to like these big boats........yawn.......time for bed for me.
You're welcome to stay up and read my post that you should have read before you shot off your piehole.
Note: If you don't know how to do internet searches, ask your grandkids.
you should have no problem finding info on any of Bush's illustrious relatives
Pachelbel, the Prescott Bush story is old news, old plowed ground, the libs tried to get traction with that in one of the elections. It never went anywhere because it did not amount to a hill of beans, like virtually all the other scandals tried by the libs against Bush.
I found it! It is the explanation of Bush's popularity -- the S Factor (aka the Stupid Factor).
Some people are insufficiently intelligent to understand the issues. They are attracted to people who are simplistic and jingoistic in their speech. Thus, Bush is their man. I think Reagan and Quayle prospered with these people.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/155107_firstperson05.html
Advocate wrote:I found it! It is the explanation of Bush's popularity -- the S Factor (aka the Stupid Factor).
Some people are insufficiently intelligent to understand the issues. They are attracted to people who are simplistic and jingoistic in their speech. Thus, Bush is their man. I think Reagan and Quayle prospered with these people.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/155107_firstperson05.html
Ahh. ... the Democrats have finally figured it out. That explains why Gore and Kerry lost. Everybody that voted for Bush is stupid.
Of course, not everyone who voted for Bush is stupid. But many who voted for Bush were attracted to his simple, plain-spoken style because they are also simple and plain-spoken. Whereas most intelligent people listen to Bush fumble and f*ck-up speeches and it makes them think that he is stupid, the simple listen to the same speeches and it makes them feel smart.
Cycloptichorn
Ticomaya wrote:Advocate wrote:I found it! It is the explanation of Bush's popularity -- the S Factor (aka the Stupid Factor).
Some people are insufficiently intelligent to understand the issues. They are attracted to people who are simplistic and jingoistic in their speech. Thus, Bush is their man. I think Reagan and Quayle prospered with these people.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/155107_firstperson05.html
Ahh. ... the Democrats have finally figured it out. That explains why Gore and Kerry lost. Everybody that voted for Bush is stupid.
And don't forget that we're all Nascar fans, drive pickup trucks with gun racks and bullhorns on the hood, finished 4th grade, get most of our news from the National Enquiror (or Fox News), have recipes for squirrel stew, religiously listen to Limbaugh for our marching orders, and this all imminently qualifies us to put together successful political campaigns.
Wouldn't you think those smart Gore and Kerry supporters would have figured all that out by now?
Foxfyre wrote:and this all imminently qualifies us to put together successful political campaigns.
No, it qualifies those who you described to be
used by successful political campaigns. The faction of the Republican party which you've described is a tool for those who are far more intelligent, and know exactly how to appeal to baser instincts and manipulate fears.
On another note, here's the 'bush bounce' from the recent "OMG@!$#! TERRA SCARE!!!" Peddled by the Administration:
Quote:* Zogby: the president's job approval rating dropped from 36% to 34%.
* Gallup: his approval rating fell from 40% to 37%.
* CBS News: the president's support remained flat at 36%.
* Newsweek: Bush's approval rating improved to 38% from 35%.
* Fox News: the president's support remained flat at 36%.
* AP/Ipsos: his approval rating fell from 36% to 33%.
* Harris: the president's support remained flat at 34%.
So, yeah, boy who cried wolf and all that.
Cycloptichorn
I finished the 8th grade, thank you very much. Graduated 2nd in my class at the Ozark Hillbilly Academy. My sister Erlene graduated number 1, but I think the teacher was biased. After all, he and Erlene were married. But I digress.
