I think that there is a difference between division in Washington and division in the rest of the country. What I would like to see is a third, significant, minority party. That way, there would have to be a coalition to get anything done and, I think, more people would be represented. The problem now is not only that we're divided, but that we're divided in two. If we were divided in three or more, there wouldn't be this sort of binary, either or, false choice that we've had in the last several years of elections. People would have more of a choice. It would be harder to get to authoritarianism.
That's just my opinion.
In the current events division of the thread, some things just need no caption at all.
No. One (unverified) source says they are Harvard grads. Would that be your alma mater JTT?
fox and just wonders... do you have any hilarious photographs for this item?
Quote:Key Evangelical Quits Amid Gay Sex Claim
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 2, 2006
Filed at 6:41 p.m. ET
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) -- The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man.
The Rev. Ted Haggard also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could ''not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations.''
The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex.
Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: ''Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife.''
In a written statement, Haggard said: ''I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity. I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance.''
Mike Jones, 49, told The Associated Press that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM in Denver.
Jones said that he had advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and that a man who called himself Art contacted him. Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard.
He said that he last had sex with Haggard in August and that he did not warn him before making his allegations this week.
Jones said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash, though he declined to make any of it available to the AP.
''There's some stuff on there (the voice mails) that's pretty damning,'' he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Haggard-Sex-Allegations.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
blatham wrote:fox and just wonders... do you have any hilarious photographs for this item?
Quote:Key Evangelical Quits Amid Gay Sex Claim
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 2, 2006
Filed at 6:41 p.m. ET
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) -- The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man.
The Rev. Ted Haggard also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could ''not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations.''
The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex.
Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: ''Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife.''
In a written statement, Haggard said: ''I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity. I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance.''
Mike Jones, 49, told The Associated Press that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM in Denver.
Jones said that he had advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and that a man who called himself Art contacted him. Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard.
He said that he last had sex with Haggard in August and that he did not warn him before making his allegations this week.
Jones said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash, though he declined to make any of it available to the AP.
''There's some stuff on there (the voice mails) that's pretty damning,'' he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Haggard-Sex-Allegations.html?_r
=1&oref=slogin
that's not funny Blatham, you shouldn't make jokes about a man of god who just preaches the good word. He has a family and an expensive toy to think of. He has problems only he can deal with.
"I think it's important to note that nobody hates the troops more than decorated war hero John Kerry. We're all very, very lucky that we have draft-dodgers like George Bush and Dick Cheney to point that out to us." --Jimmy Kimmel
blatham wrote:fox and just wonders... do you have any hilarious photographs for this item?
Quote:Key Evangelical Quits Amid Gay Sex Claim
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 2, 2006
Filed at 6:41 p.m. ET
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) -- The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man.
The Rev. Ted Haggard also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could ''not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations.''
The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex.
Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: ''Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife.''
In a written statement, Haggard said: ''I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity. I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance.''
Mike Jones, 49, told The Associated Press that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM in Denver.
Jones said that he had advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and that a man who called himself Art contacted him. Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard.
He said that he last had sex with Haggard in August and that he did not warn him before making his allegations this week.
Jones said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash, though he declined to make any of it available to the AP.
''There's some stuff on there (the voice mails) that's pretty damning,'' he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Haggard-Sex-Allegations.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
I figured roxxxanne or jtt would post about these allegations. Didn't figure it would be Blatham.
John Kerry is an idiot.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - Republican Rep. Heather Wilson has bested more than one tough opponent in her Democratic-leaning House district, where many voters depend on military and defense jobs. But this year, the five-term incumbent's toughest challenge is overcoming her own party.
Albuquerque voters' distaste for President Bush, Republicans and the war in Iraq have helped give a slight advantage to Wilson's opponent, the state's Democratic attorney general, Patricia Madrid.
Wilson, an Air Force veteran known for occasionally bucking her party, has tried to make the race about local issues. She has struggled against a blitz of negative ads by Democrats contending that a vote for Wilson is a vote for Bush and the war.
Voters now parrot the message when asked about the race.
"It's not that she's doing a bad job, it's just that she seems like a puppet for Bush," said Leonard Zamora, a Democrat who said she had not decided for whom to vote. "It's time for a change."
Despite the Democratic tilt of her constituency, Wilson has been well-liked in her district, which is home to Kirtland Air Force Base and Sandia National Laboratories.
"If it were not for Iraq and the president's low approval rating, I think Heather Wilson would win comfortably," Albuquerque pollster Brian Sanderoff said.
Instead, Madrid's intense focus on national issues has made the Albuquerque-area 1st Congressional District a mirror of the difficult national landscape for Republicans.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats are expected to make significant gains in governors' races on Tuesday, including wins in several battleground states that could give the party an early edge in the 2008 White House race.
Republicans are defending 22 of the 36 governors' offices up for grabs on Tuesday, including nine where the Republican incumbent is not on the ballot. Democrats must defend 14 governorships but only one without an incumbent.
The lopsided political map, and a harsh national climate for Republicans, have Democrats primed to pick up at least the four governorships needed for a national majority and possibly several more. Republicans hold 28 governors' offices to 22 for Democrats.
"It's a Democratic year, and that is true for governors races as well," said Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia. "The Democrats had a great map to start with and they are taking advantage of it."
Four days before the election, Democrats are favorites in races for five open Republican offices in Ohio, New York, Massachusetts, Colorado and Arkansas.
Other crucial battlegrounds include Republican-held Minnesota, Maryland, Idaho, Nevada, Alaska and Rhode Island, and Democratic-held Oregon, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan and Maine.
The five biggest German subsidiary companies in USA (DaimlerChrysler, Boehringer, SAP, BASF and Bayer) spend about $1.7 million for the Republicans = 68% of the money they've collected via their political action committees.
McGentrix wrote:blatham wrote:fox and just wonders... do you have any hilarious photographs for this item?
Quote:Key Evangelical Quits Amid Gay Sex Claim
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 2, 2006
Filed at 6:41 p.m. ET
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) -- The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man.
The Rev. Ted Haggard also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could ''not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations.''
The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex.
Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: ''Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife.''
In a written statement, Haggard said: ''I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity. I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance.''
Mike Jones, 49, told The Associated Press that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM in Denver.
Jones said that he had advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and that a man who called himself Art contacted him. Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard.
He said that he last had sex with Haggard in August and that he did not warn him before making his allegations this week.
Jones said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash, though he declined to make any of it available to the AP.
''There's some stuff on there (the voice mails) that's pretty damning,'' he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Haggard-Sex-Allegations.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
I figured roxxxanne or jtt would post about these allegations. Didn't figure it would be Blatham.
John Kerry is an idiot.
What are the chances that an immediate resignation would follow from total innocence re the allegations?
Quote:But in a later interview with a different local station, the church's associate pastor said Haggard had offered "some admission of indiscretion" to the church leadership -- though "not admission to all of the material that has been discussed."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/03/AR2006110300317.html
McGentrix wrote:
Quote:Key Evangelical Quits Amid Gay Sex Claim
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 2, 2006
Filed at 6:41 p.m. ET
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) -- The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man.
The Rev. Ted Haggard also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could ''not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations.''
The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex.
I figured roxxxanne or jtt would post about these allegations. Didn't figure it would be Blatham.
John Kerry is an idiot.
I figured you'd be offering your honest opinions about the allegations made, McG, noting carefully that these were just allegations and nothing had yet been proven. I figure that you'd perform your normal due diligence seeking out all necessary information from the internet.
But instead, all we get is a completely off the topic gratuitous response about Kerry. And you have the temerity to call him an idiot.
This morning, I was watching an interview with Dick Morris on Fox and Friends. (Dick Morris is a scoundrel himself, but has earned my respect as having one of the best political instincts out there. He accurately predicted exactly how this last election would go and why it would go that way.)
Morris is peeved at Bush for not firing Rumsfield 30 to 60 days before the election and thinks that alone might have turned the tide for the Republicans as it might have brought out sufficient numbers of the GOP base to the polls. As he put it this morning, that would have spared the GOP from the endless succession of subpoenas and investigations that will be regular fodder for the next two years. He says don't believe for a minute that the Democrats will not do this despite their high sounding rhetoric of the moment. He says the Democrats are much more experienced and capable of using their power to their own advantage than is the GOP.
So I think there will be plenty of discussion material for this thread for some time to come.
Okay, having been advised of its presence, moving previous post to the new thread.
Bush supporters are invited to join us
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Foxfyre wrote:Okay, having been advised of its presence, moving previous post to the new thread.
Bush supporters are invited to join us
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Bush has still got supporters? Mr Barnum was right.
@McTag,
For some who don't like to forget him ...
And now for the real aftermath. Adios Bush. I'm sure you're a great guy but you never should've been president.
