Bush supporters' aftermath thread II

Anyone coming into a "Bush suppporters" thread purely for the purpose of posting material they hope is offensive to Bush supporters are themselves offensive. But, as my definition of trolling indicates, that is their intent and they revel in it.

Anyone coming into a "Bush supporters' thread to post a long anti-Bush/anti-adminisration/anti-America article unrelated to anything being discussed and who offers no discussion related to the article is spamming and they are offensive.

But as my posted definition indicates, that is their purpose and they do not care if they are seen as offensive.

But my scroll button works as well as Tico's. I don't read the stuff knowing that it is just more trolling and spam and scroll right on past.

Meanwhile, I hope those who sincerely take opposing views and contribute to the discussion will continue to participate as they do add constructive substance through their opposition and are appreciated.

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Getting back to earlier discussions, it appears that the MSM is going to give short shrift to the information coming out in the Saddam tapes and much of it is absolutely stunning. It will be up to talk radio, the few other conservative media sources that exists, and us bloggers to keep it out there until it has been acknowledged. Unless it is shown to be a hoax or otherwise unreliable, so far it has pretty well exhonerated the President (and the previous administration) on the 'lying about WMD' issues.

Also, on the surveillance 'scandal', recently somebody broke into a convenience store here in New Mexico and the only thing they took was I think 180 disposable cellular phones. (Not positive about the number but that will be close.) Now why would somebody JUST want disposable phones? I think this particular kind of incident is being repeated elsewhere.

The following I think is the whole heart of what the debate should be.

Jonathan Gurwitz
1978 surveillance act hinders 2006 security SOURCE

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Quote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/19/literally-one-beer/

Twisted Evil

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Listen, Fox. They behave like children here (goes along with their psychotic political beliefs), after they've been asked kindly to stop spamming. So just repay them in kind in every thread they enjoy.

We should move our conversation to the Democrats whining thread everytime one of them posts here. We should actually move it there permanently.

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I admit to childish behavior on occasion, keeps a person young. However, if it is childish when I or someone else does it, would it not be childish when a person "repay them in kind in every thread they enjoy?"

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No. It would be payback, which is a time-honored tradition among those of all ages.

The alternative is...what? letting you do it with no consequence?

Not in this lifetime.

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why not be the bigger person and ignore 'em?

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If you say so, Lash <shrugs> So tell me where is this "democrats whining thread?" Maybe I'll see you there.

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Lash wrote:

Listen, Fox. They behave like children here (goes along with their psychotic political beliefs), after they've been asked kindly to stop spamming. So just repay them in kind in every thread they enjoy.

We should move our conversation to the Democrats whining thread everytime one of them posts here. We should actually move it there permanently.

Absolutely. The appropriate criterion is credible information/commentary, not whether it corresponds with one's set views.

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Lash wrote:

Listen, Fox. They behave like children here (goes along with their psychotic political beliefs), after they've been asked kindly to stop spamming. So just repay them in kind in every thread they enjoy.

We should move our conversation to the Democrats whining thread everytime one of them posts here. We should actually move it there permanently.

Yeah, but I want to be better than them. That sounds arrogant doesn't it. Sigh. It's a no win situation actually. But I won't stoop to their level since I know we do have something of substance to discuss on our thread(s).

If some of you guys didn't chime in over on their thread now and then though, it is obvious it would die on the vine. It only picks up activity when you show up. Smile

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For something of substance sans "agenda" and in the interest of human understanding/compassion;
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=69623&highlight=
or, just continue to demonstrate how superior/inferior everyone is, continue in the same vein you're already in. Buncha pig-headed morons.

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Aside from dys' view...I could hardly agree with you guys less on this matter. I think it unhealthy, unrewarding and intellectually chickenshit to keep discourse only among those who agree with you/me. The reason is clear in the link below.

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_rpt.pdf

But as there is no longer a means here to separate off for private discussion, I'm going to let you guys have what you wish for.

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blatham wrote:

Aside from dys' view...I could hardly agree with you guys less on this matter. I think it unhealthy, unrewarding and intellectually chickenshit to keep discourse only among those who agree with you/me. The reason is clear in the link below.

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_rpt.pdf

But as there is no longer a means here to separate off for private discussion, I'm going to let you guys have what you wish for.

Thank you.

And thanks for the condescension ...

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blatham wrote:

But as there is no longer a means here to separate off for private discussion, I'm going to let you guys have what you wish for.

This is why I withdrew my last post--in case anyone was wondering where it went.

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The level of discourse was high when we had the Roundtable. As I said in part, in the post I deleted, the absence of the "circle your wagons" feeling brought on by drive-by partisans can lead to deeper, more satisfying discussions inside the group.

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Do I detect civility here?

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Only those who don't read thoroughly could extrapolate a request for courtesy to be that 'no dissent' is wanted or appreciated. Especially when everybody has said that those participating in the discussion, even those who disagree, are both invited and welcomed. I can name at least half a dozen or more participants on this thread who are neither Bush supporters nor who support most of the policies he has set forth who fit that mold.

For that matter, I don't know a single Bush supporter who has posted on this thread who doesn't have at least one issue to take with the President.

It is those who spam the thread with unrelated and inappropriate materials and who make no effort to enter into any meaningful discussion that have been the problem.

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