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Bush supporters' aftermath thread II

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 09:14 am
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Is John Yoo also the one who drafted a statement of support for Bush's torture bill, which the White House then pressured a group of JAG lawyers to sign?


Yoo works down the hall from me at UC berkeley law school.

He always has an unpleasant look on his face

Cycloptichorn
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 09:17 am
Kick him in the shins for me, please.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 09:44 am
SierraSong wrote:

Huh. Never occured to me that there would be folks here who didn't understand the difference between 'favorable' and 'approval'.


I don't see why. When the favorability rating is given on TV broadcasts, frequently the difference between the two needed to be explained on air.

Gee, could it be possible that with all this talk on the forum about low-but-slightly-rising Bush job approval ratings, you slipped the higher favorability in there hoping it would get confused with the lower job approval ratings?

Nah.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 09:50 am
A delicious quote from Sam Harris' "Letter to a Christian Nation"...

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The President of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim any more ludicrous or offensive.
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 09:55 am
kelticwizard wrote:
SierraSong wrote:

Huh. Never occured to me that there would be folks here who didn't understand the difference between 'favorable' and 'approval'.


I don't see why. When the favorability rating is given on TV broadcasts, frequently the difference between the two needed to be explained on air.


This isn't a TV broadcast. I thought my original post spelled it out pretty well.

kelticwizard wrote:
Gee, could it be possible that with all this talk on the forum about low-but-slightly-rising Bush job approval ratings, you slipped the higher favorability in there hoping it would get confused with the lower job approval ratings?

Nah.


Take a look at the title of this thread and then at the last line in my original post.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 10:13 am
kelticwizard wrote:

When the favorability rating is given on TV broadcasts, frequently the difference between the two needed to be explained on air.



Sierra Song wrote:
This isn't a TV broadcast. I thought my original post spelled it out pretty well.


Your original quote simply repeated the question which was asked. But unless a person is really, really up on polling, the difference between "favorability" and "job approval" is likely to confused, especially since "job approval" is most often shortened to mere "approval" when the number is given. That is why the distinction is made in TV broadcasts.
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MarionT
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 03:17 pm
The ratings for Bush are in the low thirties! Read the polls in the papers. I am amazed that there would be so many people who would still after all of the horrible things he has done to this country be in favor of Bushie. It just goes to show how many stupid people there are in the USA!
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 03:49 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 04:41 pm
It's neat seeing who supports Bush on A2K. You never can trust your own reading or senses, but the rampant posting in this thread just goes to show that you can never really tell a person's political stripe.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 08:48 pm
"rampant"...

I love it when you talk dirty
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 08:49 pm
Embarrassed yeah, he said "political stripe" too..
such a bawdy man...
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pachelbel
 
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Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 09:07 pm
The president has 'professional ethical standards'?????


Who knew.......



Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.


Nothing new under the sun. The sheeple are more than happy to have their rights taken away under the guise of 'keeping citizens safe'. Balderdash. Baaaaaaaaaaa....................
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 05:42 am
A bit more on propaganda...

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White House soiree: Boortz, Hannity, Gallagher, Medved and Ingraham were reportedly invited to meet with Bush in the Oval Office
In a September 16 posting on his weblog, nationally syndicated radio host Neal Boortz wrote that he had been invited to "the West Wing of the White House" for a "30-minute meeting with the President in the Oval Office [which] turned into 90 minutes." Boortz added that the "other invitees were [conservative radio hosts] Sean Hannity, Mike Gallagher, Michael Medved and Laura Ingraham." As the weblog Think Progress noted, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported in a September 17 posting on its website that conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has been invited to the meeting but could not attend.

Below, are examples of some noteworthy comments, previously documented by Media Matters for America, from each of the recent guests who reportedly visited the White House...
you'll love these quotes!
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 08:57 am
Thomas wrote:
The Zogby favorability figure apparently wasn't chosen at random. No pollster currently has Bush's approval rating anywhere near 50%, and no pollster except Zogby has his favorability rating anywhere near it, either.


But, on 9/14 Rasmussen had Bush's approval rating at 47%. Near enough to 50% to suit me Smile

Today, it's 40% - tomorrow, who knows?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 10:35 am
SierraSong wrote:
Today, it's 40% - tomorrow, who knows?

Good for you -- this means Bush's approval rating is now only 20% worse than Bill Clinton's at the time of his impeachment. I'm sure that makes Republican Congressmen happy to have him on their campaign teams.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 10:42 am
Thomas wrote:
SierraSong wrote:
Today, it's 40% - tomorrow, who knows?

Good for you -- this means Bush's approval rating is now only 20% worse than Bill Clinton's at the time of his impeachment. I'm sure that makes Republican Congressmen happy to have him on their campaign teams.


Why is always Clinton with you guys?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 10:54 am
McGentrix wrote:
Why is always Clinton with you guys?

He is Mr. Bush's predecessor in office, so provides an obvious benchmark to compare Bush to. If instead I benchmark Bush against other presidents, his approval rating now matches Reagan's at the height of the Iran-Contra scandal, up from Nixon's during the Watergate affair. Do you like that better?
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 11:23 am
McGentrix wrote:
Why is always Clinton with you guys?


Easier to change the subject than admit he's wrong on a fact (however inconsequential), maybe. Except, he's usually quick to admit when he gets it wrong.

I think we'll see more of this the closer it gets to Nov. 7. The lefties are definitely getting edgy.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 12:33 pm
"The president has 'professional ethical standards'?????"

nah, just a bit of irony from the author is all...
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 05:09 am
Dick Cheney, when asked by Tim Russert last week whether, given the chance to alter decisions and plans re Iraq, replied "We'd do exactly the same thing again"

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/world/middleeast/21iraq.html

The heavenly moral revitalization of the world, courtesy of Bush and Cheney.
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