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Bush supporters' aftermath thread II

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:30 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Well, that's what Tico posted, Walter. We got it.


Sorry, obviously I got a different text here than you.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:32 pm
"More correctly" in what sense, Walter?
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:38 pm
I love how Drudge always says..."Developing..."

Laughing
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:39 pm
Coretta Scott King devoted her life to the ideals of equality, fair treatment and human dignity. Naturally this was political as Coretta devoted her life to fighting the republican party.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:42 pm
Not as bad as the Wellstone memorial service, but pretty poor taste by those using the funeral to take political shots.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:45 pm
Yes certainly Tico, Coretta was never political, just like Wellstone. Doh!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:47 pm
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"She extended Martin's message against poverty, racism and war. She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over there," Lowery said.


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"But Coretta knew, and we know," Lowery continued, "That there are weapons of misdirection right down here," he said, nodding his head toward the row of presidents past and present. "For war, billions more, but no more for the poor!" The crowd again cheered wildly.


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Former President Jimmy Carter later swung at Bush as well, not once but twice. As he talked about the Kings, he said: "It was difficult for them then personally with the civil liberties of both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret government wiretaps." The crowd cheered as Bush, under fire for a secret wiretapping program he ordered after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, again smiled weakly.


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Later, Carter said Hurricane Katrina showed that all are not yet equal in America.


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Some black leaders have blamed Bush for the poor federal response,


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and rapper Kayne West said that Bush "hates" black people.


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Developing...


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Amazing how upset you people get when people have the temerity to tell the truth.

Cycloptichorn
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 04:56 pm
From Cyclops' link re: Katrina and equality in America:

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And as Greenspan himself points out, by many measures the economy is doing well. Unemployment is down, GDP is up. Inflation still slumbers. Current standards of living are unmatched.

"So you can look at the system and say it's got a lot of problems to it, and sure it does. It always has," Greenspan told the JEC last week. "But you can't get around the fact that this is the most extraordinarily successful economy in history."
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 05:01 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Amazing how upset you people get when people have the temerity to tell the truth.

Cycloptichorn


Regardless of the truth of the message, are you saying you think a funeral is the time and place for political speech?

The "Reverend" Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church clan like to picket the funerals of soldiers (or anyone else for that matter) claiming as their central message: "God Hates Fags." It's a completely legal activity, but shows very little class.

Do you think using the occasion of a funeral to take political pot shots at your "opponent" shows a lot of class? Or a complete lack of it?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 06:18 pm
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"She extended Martin's message against poverty, racism and war. She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over there," Lowery said.

The mostly black crowd applauded, then rose to its feet and cheered in a two-minute-long standing ovation.


Well, let's see. It certainly seems the audience approved. Who are you to tell them what is appropriate and what isn't?

Cycloptichorn
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 06:47 pm
Why am I not surprised by that answer Smile
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 06:51 pm
Are you implying that the audience was not a capable judge of what was and wasn't appropriate at the funeral?

Why would you say that?

Cycloptichorn
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 07:00 pm
Tico didn't ask you what the audience thought. He asked you what you thought.

You chose not to answer. I'm not surprised Smile
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 07:02 pm
He answered. He thinks whatever is popular is appropriate.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 07:18 pm
No, I think it is always appropriate to tell the truth. The audience recognized this fact and responded accordingly.

Here's a book you should read:

Speaker for the Dead

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 07:23 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
No, I think it is always appropriate to tell the truth. The audience recognized this fact and responded accordingly.


So at the funeral for John Kennedy, Jr., you think it would have been appropriate for someone to stand up, point to Edward Kennedy and proclaim him to be a fat, liberal blowhard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 07:26 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Here's a book you should read:

Speaker for the Dead

Cycloptichorn


Why?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 07:31 pm
Ed Kennedy was a member of the bereaved family; Bush is the President of the US, at the funeral for political reasons. So I'm not sure the situation is the same, are you clamining it was?

Also, I don't know enough about the Kennedy situation to say whether he killed someone or not. I'll have to take your word that that is true.

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 07:58 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Ed Kennedy was a member of the bereaved family; Bush is the President of the US, at the funeral for political reasons. So I'm not sure the situation is the same, are you clamining it was?


I don't know ... but it appears you're placing some parameters on your prior position of, "I think it is always appropriate to tell the truth."

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Also, I don't know enough about the Kennedy situation to say whether he killed someone or not. I'll have to take your word that that is true.

Cycloptichorn


Okay .... would it have been appropriate for a speaker to have stood up at John-John's funeral service, highlight the known facts concerning the Chappaquiddick incident, and point out that many believe Teddy to be responsible for Mary Jo's death?
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 08:53 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
As an aside, I wish to express my complete disgust and contempt for a bunch of bad mannered, hateful Democrats who today used the funeral of Coretta Scott King for the purpose of bashing our President. This is about as low as it gets and should completely embarrass any decent members of that party.


It's about time someone bitch-slapped that scumbag ... in public ... to his face! Everyone has tiptoed around this malignant self-appointed demi-god!

Finally someone has called the scumbag a scumbag!

Anon
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