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Funny how obsessed the far right are with jerking off....

Funny how obsessed the far right are with jerking off....

dlowan wrote:

Funny how obsessed the far right are with jerking off....

heehee and lol

Funny how obsessed the far right are with jerking off....

dlowan wrote:

Funny how obsessed the far right are with jerking off....

heehee and lol

dlowan wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

I don't understand why some of you can't seem to understand what Lash is saying.

It seems to be perfectly ok for some to belittle others for their beliefs. But, when they are called on it, it is called humorous teasing? Well, it's not funny to me when anyone belittles me for my beliefs.

Just as no one likes to be belittled because of race or anything else. What is the difference? It seems to be ok for some at some times but not at others.

That is a double standard I have seen often in these threads. Not everyone does it, but plenty do.

It's hard for you to see how Lash's question was pure bait and when dlowan tried to answer it light-heartedly she brought out some bits from another unrelated conversation in an effort to trip her up? How you could read deb's post and take that to mean that she advocates belittling people (or inanimate objects) for their religion is beyond me. I'd love to have it clarified, but there will be no clarification here tonight it seems.

The bits from the other conversation were more than related--it was evidence of dlowan speaking one opinion about religious artifacts and beliefs when the religion was ISLAM (her current protected pet religion), juxtaposed with her demeaning, belittling remarks against Christianity. Your clarification is here if you are actually interested in the facts. You see dys' signature, where he quotes one of dlowan's MANY insults against Christianity--yet, you can ably see quotes she made self-righteously insulting anyone who would make light of Islam. It is undeniably a double standard--and instead of confronting the facts she squirms and pitches an unbalanced fit to avoid answering my question.

What you call "tripping one up" is showing evidence of her stating two conflicting opinions.

When it comes to Lash's nasty games there is no clarification, FreeDuck, since her only aim is to be as unpleasant as she can manage, and without intent to have any sort of discussion, which is why I ignore her for the most part these days.

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Note the nasty games. For dlowan, this means questions she doesn't want to answer. How psychotic must one be to make such a mountain out of straightforward questions. And--do continue to ignore me. Since you refuse to speak logically and answer questions, you are a supreme waste of my time.

I have no idea what might possibly need clarification, since it seems to me there is no possible correlation between banter about religion and using it as a weapon against helpless prisoners who are being misused in other ways as well.

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I was not discussing torture.

To belittle anyone's religion, if it is deeply meaningful to them, in circumstances where they are utterly powerless and afraid is disgusting.
To do it under any circumstances is the same under all circumstances.

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The TORTURE would make ANYTHING seem bad. But it is the TORTURE that would be bad.

To pretend to equate this with teasing is, to me, evidence of such moral blindness that I do not consider it worth arguing about it. The person who would seriously put that forward is not amenable to reasonable debate on the matter, or simply attempting to have a chance to pretend moral outrage so as to have a psychodrama.

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I said I was going to pee on a Koran. No torture was involved--except perhaps for the Koran in question. Why don't you tell the truth? It is supposed to set you free. You berated and insulted ME for cracking wise re the Koran. You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Is it OK to berate Christians and their "invisible friend" and their "elderly Rohrshak"--yet not OK to joke about the Koran. Just be honest.

I leave others to makle up their own minds re which is the case here.

Either way, it is ridiculous to pretend to debate it, since no reasonable debate is intended.

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You dodge the question because you're caught.

Personally, even when I was religious, I would not have been troubled by abuse of the bible, it is just a book, to christians, in its physical form. To Muslims it is a terrible thing to abuse it. Lash says this is ridiculous. Shrugs. Equally, I regard christian and muslim belief in the god they espouse as ridiculous, yet Lash, for instance, wishes to privilege her superstition above the muslim version. So it goes.

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Why treat one better than the other? Why abuse one group and protect the other from the same thing? Bigotry?

Why treat one better than the other?

Boy, that was fun. Is that what it feels like to be American?

That reminds me, I have to get a new Canadian flag to line my cat's litter box.

Kickycan,

I feel sorry for anyone who feels it is okay to show such disrespect for others in the manner that you do.

And yet, I would imagine you would be one of the first to condemn someone else for saying something that might even possibly sound slightly discriminating racially, sexually, etc.? I don't know that is a fact, but I imagine it might be.

But, I keep forgetting, because religion is a choice, it's ok to be so disrespectful. I just keep forgetting that.

Momma Angel wrote:

Kickycan,

I feel sorry for anyone who feels it is okay to show such disrespect for others in the manner that you do.

And yet, I would imagine you would be one of the first to condemn someone else for saying something that might even possibly sound slightly discriminating racially, sexually, etc.? I don't know that is a fact, but I imagine it might be.

But, I keep forgetting, because religion is a choice, it's ok to be so disrespectful. I just keep forgetting that.

Glad I could jog your memory for you.

And if it makes you feel any better, I feel sorry for you too.

kickycan wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

Kickycan,

I feel sorry for anyone who feels it is okay to show such disrespect for others in the manner that you do.

And yet, I would imagine you would be one of the first to condemn someone else for saying something that might even possibly sound slightly discriminating racially, sexually, etc.? I don't know that is a fact, but I imagine it might be.

But, I keep forgetting, because religion is a choice, it's ok to be so disrespectful. I just keep forgetting that.

Glad I could jog your memory for you.

And if it makes you feel any better, I feel sorry for you too.

I understand Kickycan. I imagine you wouldn't feel sorry for me if I were to change my opinion and think it's ok to disrespect others just because I don't agree with their choices in life.

I am having the most delightful conversation with someone that is not a Christian, yet this person does share the same belief that I do that we don't need to criticize or berate anyone for what choices they have made or what they believe. So, you see Kickycan, I don't believe you have to believe in God to treat others kindly and with dignity and respect. That is what I feel sorry for you about. You obviously can't understand that concept.