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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 02:44 pm
Stevepax wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Stevepax wrote:
twin_peaks_nikki wrote:

Terrorism cannot be eradicated.


Especially since America is so good at it. I suggest we cease our terrorism of the world before we expect any improvement of the problem.


Obviously you have no concept of the term terrorism.


McG dear man, the U.S. is the LEAD terrorist nation in the world. We have practiced it for decades. It has now come home to roost. Then you geniuses wonder why?? Duh!!


How so? Perhaps you can give some examples.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 02:53 pm
I could give hundreds, but I only need one significant one.

Exercise that amazing intellect of yours and tell me who funded, trained, armed, and basically created AlQueda from a handful of terrorists. Extra points if you can tell me WHY!
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 02:56 pm
Terrorism is the use of fear and intimidation through threats and acts of violence to achieve a political goal.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 02:58 pm
Lash wrote:
Terrorism is the use of fear and intimidation through threats and acts of violence to achieve a political goal.


So the United States and Israel were founded by terrorists?
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:03 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Lash wrote:
Terrorism is the use of fear and intimidation through threats and acts of violence to achieve a political goal.


So the United States and Israel were founded by terrorists?


That's Bingo Steve.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:05 pm
Stevepax wrote:
I could give hundreds, but I only need one significant one.

Exercise that amazing intellect of yours and tell me who funded, trained, armed, and basically created AlQueda from a handful of terrorists. Extra points if you can tell me WHY!


"A final glimpse of "international co-operation based on international law" during the Carter Administration brings us to Afghanistan, site of a Soviet invasion in December 1979. It was here that Carter and Brzezinski aligned themselves with staunch anti-Communists in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to exploit Islam as a method to arouse the Afghani populace to action. With the CIA coordinating the effort, some $40 billion in US taxpayer dollars were used to recruit "freedom fighters" like Osama bin Laden. The rest, as they say, is history."


So, to answer your question--that would be Osama, Jimmy Carter and the Arab countries, eh?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:06 pm
Lash wrote:
Terrorism is the use of fear and intimidation through threats and acts of violence to achieve a political goal.

LOL!

Hey, folks! Lash just called GW Bush a terrorist!
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:08 pm
Yep, the United States, Lead terrorist state of the world! Very good Lash, I appreciate you underlining my point!
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:09 pm
Are you still oin high school? War is war, of course, what liberal can understand that?

Picking on civilians and declared war are not synonymous.

They'll never get it.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:11 pm
U.S funding of OBL - seems that was a point being made by many posters over the past several years here at A2K. Interesting to see it being made by Lash as well. A bit unexpected. Charming, nonetheless.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:13 pm
Lash wrote:
Terrorism is the use of fear and intimidation through threats and acts of violence to achieve a political goal.


Then war is terrorism.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:15 pm
ehBeth wrote:
U.S funding of OBL - seems that was a point being made by many posters over the past several years here at A2K. Interesting to see it being made by Lash as well. A bit unexpected. Charming, nonetheless.


That she did! Finally, an honest right winger. Whooda thunk?
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:15 pm
1. A contest between nations or states, carried on by force, whether for defence, for revenging insults and redressing wrongs, for the extension of commerce, for the acquisition of territory, for obtaining and establishing the superiority and dominion of one over the other, or for any other purpose; armed conflict of sovereign powers; declared and open hostilities.
Men will ever distinguish war from mere bloodshed.


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I have never denied the bit of realpolitik that assisted OBL. It didn't create him, nor would things likely be different now in the absence of that money-- It's just a little embarrassing. Doesn't change anything.

It was a good idea at the time, so many thought. What would your response to Iran be during that time? Hindsight, you know.

That Jimmy Carter. He didn't do anything right.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:15 pm
Lash wrote:
Are you still oin high school? War is war, of course, what liberal can understand that?

Picking on civilians and declared war are not synonymous.

They'll never get it.

We get that you're either confused or lazy. Either would adequately explain your posts on this board.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:19 pm
That direct insult is against TOS. I'd rather respond in kind, but I've decided to let you edit.

You've got about ten minutes.

War is symmetrical, nation against nation. There are rules for it. Terrorism is not war, and war is not terrorism. Hence the two words, and the two completely different conflicts.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:20 pm
What is the purpose of threatening war? Of bombing and invading without a declaration of war? Is it not to intimidate and through such intimidation achieve a political goal?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:21 pm
Lash wrote:

War is symmetrical, nation against nation. There are rules for it. Terrorism is not war, and war is not terrorism. Hence the two words, and the two completely different conflicts.


So which is it in Iraq?
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:22 pm
We declared war.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:23 pm
No we didn't.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 03:23 pm
DrewDad wrote:
Lash wrote:
Are you still oin high school? War is war, of course, what liberal can understand that?

Picking on civilians and declared war are not synonymous.

They'll never get it.

We get that you're either confused or lazy. Either would adequately explain your posts on this board.


More likely frustrated by the nonsense spewed forth in this and so many threads like it. There is no sense in trying to make a cogent argument anymore because one is more likely to get a series of single lines commenting on the poster, a mis-spelled word, or some other tangential comment having nothing to do with what a person has posted.

It's SOP amongst the 7 or 8 "liberal" posters that seem to rotate duty within the politics forum. Being purposefully dense, and I believe many of you are, is no way to act if you wish to actually discuss a topic rather than spout off about how much you hate Bush and how evil America is.
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