Hell, I can't wait, this is too much for me to sit on... -
Joe:
Quote:The "reality of race?" What does that mean? On the one hand, you want Hollywood to stop ignoring race, yet on the other you want it to portray blacks as average, mundane people. In other words, you want stories that emphasize the centrality of race populated with characters whose race is peripheral. I don't think anyone can square that circle, least of all Hollywood.
My point is not nearly so convoluted as you attempt to make it. I say simply that by and large, today's mass media hasn't the ability and/or balls to portray ethnics realistically - either historically or reflecting modern life.
Quote:There's no need to search frantically for exceptions to what you've posted here, snood: the exceptions are numerous and easily recalled. You cite Glory, I cite A Soldier's Story. You cite Crimson Tide, I cite A Color Purple. You cite Training Day, I cite A Raisin in the Sun. No doubt those movies have something objectionable, too (why did Sidney Poitier have to help white nuns?), but I suppose a gross generalization can embrace all sorts of disparate examples.
You make my point for me - I already said that the examples I could cite had black writers, and all the examples you gave fit the bill. My whole thrust in this thread is that white hollywood has no clue, and wants none.
Soldier's Story started as
A Soldier's Play by Charles fuller - it languished for fully
3 decades before it made its way to the screen. It took that long for hollywood to decide it was a story worthy of being told. It's not
A Color Purple, it's
The Color Purple. The fact that you cite this as some kind of blow for the cause is hilarious - Alice Walker is notable in the black community for her black male-bashing, but I suppose your ilk (white male republicans who Loooove Colin and Condie) deems ANY drama with blacks in it as something "we" should be grateful for.
Lorraine Hansbury wrote
Raisin - you can't see the forest for the trees - the damn play is ABOUT the oppresion of white racism.
And anyway, let's pursue both of our arguments to their apparent logical ends. Mine would appear to be that there are countless miles to go before blacks are portrayed realistically and contemporaneously. Yours would appear to be - what? - that a FINE job has been done by all, and nobody better whine about it? You said the examples are "numerous and easily recalled". I say they're about as relatively "numerous" as the number of Black Senators and CEOs, but I reckon some folks think those numbers are just fine, too.