Zippo wrote:Asking you a question = Implying ?
Not necessarily. However: asking a suggestive question = implying.
Zippo wrote:Note: the top section was toppling.
And?
And you need some
serious force to stop that toppling process.
old europe wrote:Zippo wrote:
And you need some
serious force to stop that toppling process.
And?
Were would the force come from ?
Remember not much room there for the
slamming action (hammer hitting a nail) to create that force, the floors were joined.
Zippo wrote:Were would the force come from ?
The lower floors? You said
Zippo wrote:Recall that those lower floors had successfully supported the mass of the tower for 30 years. Can anyone possibly imagine the undamaged lower floors getting out of the way of the upper floors as gracefully and relatively frictionlessly as air would? Can anyone possibly imagine the undamaged lower floors slowing the fall of the upper floors less than would, say, a parachute?
So, aren't you saying that the lower floors constituted some
serious force against the collapsing top section?
What, you mean the bottom section moved up at very high speeds creating that force ?
Or did the top section move at very high speeds hitting the (attached) lower section, creating that super force, needed to pulverize concrete ?
Zippo wrote:What, you mean the bottom section moved up at very high speeds creating that force ?
Or did the top section move at very high speeds hitting the (attached) lower section, creating that super force, needed to pulverize concrete ?
Why would you need very high speeds?
old europe wrote:Zippo wrote:What, you mean the bottom section moved up at very high speeds creating that force ?
Or did the top section move at very high speeds hitting the (attached) lower section, creating that super force, needed to pulverize concrete ?
Why would you need very high speeds?
You tell me how it would have created some
super force without high speed and without some type of bomb.
Remember you need some type of energy to pulverize concrete.
The gravitational potential energy U of an object is equal to the work that would have to be done by a constant gravitational force F = mg on the object to move it against the force by a distance h, and is equal to
U = mgh,
where m is the mass of the object, and g the acceleration due to gravity (typical units would be kilograms for m, metres per second squared for g, and metres for h).
The buildings were constructed with over 200,000 tons of steel and 425,000 cubic yards of concrete. The South Tower was 1362ft tall. The towers had 110 floors.
Well, you said
Zippo wrote:South Tower the explosives were detonating right across the east face at the 75th floor, so probably started from there
So let's assume the 75th floor failed. That would make the top section 35 floors high.
Now try and do the math for the constant gravitational force F=mg for the top section and the force on the lower levels when the section came down from a relative height h of one floor.
Not that hard, really...
old europe
Quote:So let's assume the 75th floor failed
Are you saying gravity pulverize concrete ?
I'm saying gravity is a force. Do you disagree?
old europe wrote:I'm saying gravity is a force. Do you disagree?
Ofcourse its a force, but unlikely to pulverize concrete, remember the force is only created during movement, the towers were attached, there was never a moment where the blocks (top and bottom sections) were separated, in order to create that movement ? Do the maths and post it.
Zippo wrote:old europe wrote:I'm saying gravity is a force. Do you disagree?
remember the force is only created during movement
That's wrong. Gravity, the attractive force of the earth, is not only created during a movement.
old europe wrote:Zippo wrote:old europe wrote:I'm saying gravity is a force. Do you disagree?
remember the force is only created during movement
That's wrong. Gravity, the attractive force of the earth, is not only created during a movement.
What i meant was enough force to pulverize concrete.
You're trying to create something out of nothing.
Zippo wrote:old europe wrote:Zippo wrote:old europe wrote:I'm saying gravity is a force. Do you disagree?
remember the force is only created during movement
That's wrong. Gravity, the attractive force of the earth, is not only created during a movement.
What i meant was enough force to pulverize concrete.
You're trying to create something out of nothing.
Are you being this way purposefully, or do you have the shortest attention span in history? OE has been very patient with you but it seems to be going over your head...
the weight of the upper building being drawn to earth by gravity is the force... the weight of the upper floors is the mass, gravity is gravity. f=mg
McGentrix
Quote:the weight of the upper building being drawn to earth by gravity is the force...
So the bottom part of the tower just happened to move out of the way ?
Are you saying there was nothing supporting the 35 floor section ?
Once again, can this theory be applied to North Tower and Building 7 ?
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Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006
The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney.
Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President's Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country's foremost experts on National Security.
Bowman worked secretly for the US government on the Star Wars project and was the first to coin the very term in a 1977 secret memo. After Bowman realized that the program was only ever intended to be used as an aggressive and not defensive tool, as part of a plan to initiate a nuclear war with the Soviets, he left the program and campaigned against it.
In an interview with The Alex Jones Show aired nationally on the GCN Radio Network, Bowman (pictured below) stated that at the bare minimum if Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were involved in 9/11 then the government stood down and allowed the attacks to happen. He said it is plausible that the entire chain of military command were unaware of what was taking place and were used as tools by the people pulling the strings behind the attack.
Bowman outlined how the drills on the morning of 9/11 that simulated planes crashing into buildings on the east coast were used as a cover to dupe unwitting air defense personnel into not responding quickly enough to stop the attack.
"The exercises that went on that morning simulating the exact kind of thing that was happening so confused the people in the FAA and NORAD....that they didn't they didn't know what was real and what was part of the exercise," said Bowman
"I think the people who planned and carried out those exercises, they're the ones that should be the object of investigation."
Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, "If I had to narrow it down to one person....I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney."
Bowman said that privately his military fighter pilot peers and colleagues did not disagree with his sentiments about the real story behind 9/11.
Bowman agreed that the US was in danger of slipping into a dictatorship and stated, "I think there's been nothing closer to fascism than what we've seen lately from this government."
Bowman slammed the Patriot Act as having, "Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined."
Bowman trashed the 9/11 Commission as a politically motivated cover-up with abounding conflicts of interest, charging, "The 9/11 Commission omitted anything that might be the least bit suspicious or embarrassing or in any way detract from the official conspiracy so it was a total whitewash."
"There needs to be a true investigation, not the kind of sham investigations we have had with the 9/11 omission and all the rest of that junk," said Bowman.
Asked if the perpetrators of 9/11 were preparing to stage another false-flag attack to reinvigorate their agenda Bowman agreed that, "I can see that and I hope they can't pull it off, I hope they are prevented from pulling it off but I know darn good and well they'd like to have another one."
A mainstay of the attack pieces against Charlie Sheen have been that he is not credible enough to speak on the topic of 9/11. From the very start we have put forth eminently credible individuals only for them to be ignored by the establishment media. Physics Professors, former White House advisors and CIA analysts, the father of Reaganomics, German Defense Ministers and Bush's former Secretary of the Treasury, have all gone public on 9/11 but have been uniformly ignored by the majority of the establishment press.
Will Robert Bowman also be blackballed as the mainstream continue to misrepresent the 9/11 truth movement as an occupation of the fringe minority?
Bowman is currently running for Congress in Florida's 15th District
Amigo wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006
The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney.
Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President's Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country's foremost experts on National Security.
Bowman worked secretly for the US government on the Star Wars project and was the first to coin the very term in a 1977 secret memo. After Bowman realized that the program was only ever intended to be used as an aggressive and not defensive tool, as part of a plan to initiate a nuclear war with the Soviets, he left the program and campaigned against it.
In an interview with The Alex Jones Show aired nationally on the GCN Radio Network, Bowman (pictured below) stated that at the bare minimum if Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were involved in 9/11 then the government stood down and allowed the attacks to happen. He said it is plausible that the entire chain of military command were unaware of what was taking place and were used as tools by the people pulling the strings behind the attack.
Bowman outlined how the drills on the morning of 9/11 that simulated planes crashing into buildings on the east coast were used as a cover to dupe unwitting air defense personnel into not responding quickly enough to stop the attack.
"The exercises that went on that morning simulating the exact kind of thing that was happening so confused the people in the FAA and NORAD....that they didn't they didn't know what was real and what was part of the exercise," said Bowman
"I think the people who planned and carried out those exercises, they're the ones that should be the object of investigation."
Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, "If I had to narrow it down to one person....I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney."
Bowman said that privately his military fighter pilot peers and colleagues did not disagree with his sentiments about the real story behind 9/11.
Bowman agreed that the US was in danger of slipping into a dictatorship and stated, "I think there's been nothing closer to fascism than what we've seen lately from this government."
Bowman slammed the Patriot Act as having, "Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined."
Bowman trashed the 9/11 Commission as a politically motivated cover-up with abounding conflicts of interest, charging, "The 9/11 Commission omitted anything that might be the least bit suspicious or embarrassing or in any way detract from the official conspiracy so it was a total whitewash."
"There needs to be a true investigation, not the kind of sham investigations we have had with the 9/11 omission and all the rest of that junk," said Bowman.
Asked if the perpetrators of 9/11 were preparing to stage another false-flag attack to reinvigorate their agenda Bowman agreed that, "I can see that and I hope they can't pull it off, I hope they are prevented from pulling it off but I know darn good and well they'd like to have another one."
A mainstay of the attack pieces against Charlie Sheen have been that he is not credible enough to speak on the topic of 9/11. From the very start we have put forth eminently credible individuals only for them to be ignored by the establishment media. Physics Professors, former White House advisors and CIA analysts, the father of Reaganomics, German Defense Ministers and Bush's former Secretary of the Treasury, have all gone public on 9/11 but have been uniformly ignored by the majority of the establishment press.
Will Robert Bowman also be blackballed as the mainstream continue to misrepresent the 9/11 truth movement as an occupation of the fringe minority?
Bowman is currently running for Congress in Florida's 15th District
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