What Really Happened on 9/11?

@camlok,

Do you have a happy life Csmlok?

I am raising a family. I have a decent job that I enjoy and a comfortable income. I am politically engaged, currently working on getting a bill passed that I care about. All of this is a pretty decent life I enjoy.

The question then becomes; so what?

What exactly are you offering. If I accept what you are saying, how would this impact my comfortable little life I enjoy?

You are talking about "crushing my false world". That doesnt sound like something I would like too much. The world you live in doesn't sound like fun.

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@maxdancona,

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Do you have a happy life Csmlok?

I am raising a family. I have a decent job that I enjoy and a comfortable income. I am politically engaged, currently working on getting a bill passed that I care about. All of this is a pretty decent life I enjoy.

You've not refuted any claims; you've not answered any questions to do with the topic; you've not provided counter evidence--or any evidence--to anything produced by other posters. And now you have degraded your position to the point where the happiness of other posters is an issue. And despite your claim that you're just not interested in the subject, here you are taking time out from your self-proclaimed happy and fulfilled life to engage in what you say doesn't interest you. You betray yourself.

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@maxdancona,

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Do you have a happy life Csmlok?

Enormously so.

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I am raising a family. I have a decent job that I enjoy and a comfortable income. I am politically engaged, currently working on getting a bill passed that I care about. All of this is a pretty decent life I enjoy.

I'm raising a number of families. I have a job that I don't wanna stop at the end of the day. It sometimes goes on til 10 and I'm thrilled by every moment.

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The question then becomes; so what? What exactly are you offering. If I accept what you are saying, how would this impact my comfortable little life I enjoy?

You are talking about "crushing my false world". That doesnt sound like something I would like too much. The world you live in doesn't sound like fun.

I'm only offering the truth. All those other things you are living need a large measure of truth in them. Raising a family entails being a human, one who cares about others, one who cares about honesty, the rule of law, treating all people with dignity and a sense of humanity.

How much the truth crushes yours or any one else's world I can't do much about. And frankly, you all deserve a large measure of crushing, not in any violent, bodily sense, just the truth exposing what the USA is, and has been.

Why do you want to continue to aid and abet the crushing of millions of others who "are raising families, what there is left of them"?

Haven't you all done quite enough?

I think you have a heart in there, somewhere, Max. Trying to get out. A wee bit of guilt perhaps. Much better than all these cowards who are screaming for more millions murdered.

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@Glennn,

So what? I am here for my own amusement. I don't owe you or Csmlok anything. This whole argument has hundreds of posts on this forum and hundreds of thousands of posts on the internet. It isn't going anywhere.

What interests me is a simple question: is there any plausible explanation about 9/11 that doesn't involve terrorists hijacking plane?.

So far none has been offered. The back and forth about thermite and physics and video had already been said with endless back and forth
You can Google it yourself if you want. This mindless arguing is useless. All you and Camlock are doing now is insulting people who really don't care.

I don't get what is in it for you. It doesn't seem like you are happy.

I just here to enjoy myself, and I have made it clear the topic that interests me. If you want to just continue the mud slinging foolishness where everyone who doesn't accept what you say is an ignorant coward... I am not interested.

Sorry.

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@maxdancona,

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What interests me is a simple question: is there any plausible explanation about 9/11 that doesn't involve terrorists hijacking plane?

You can't be this thick, Max. Really, you can't.

There were no hijackers. Does it have to be spelled out to you who did it? The nanothermite came from US military labs, Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos.

It is ONLY a US explosive, not commercially available, not manufactured in a cave anywhere in the world.

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@camlok,

If there were no hijackers, why did people see airplanes hit the towers?

If you are insisting there was thermite, how do you know someone didnt loaf thermite onto the airplanes?

To answer the question of why I am obsessed with airplanes; It is because airplanes are great big noisy things that hundreds of ordinary eyewitnesses say were there. It is a big part of the story. If you can't explain the airplanes, then you can't explain anything.

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@camlok,

If insulting random people on the internet who are never going to listen to you is what makes you happy, then so be it. If you are really trying to "crush people's worlds"... that seems a little mean.

But I don't think you are getting anywhere, so to each his own.

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@maxdancona,

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If you are insisting there was thermite,

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

9-11: Military nano thermite unknown to the general public found in the dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-AqM7JNuo

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@camlok,

Sigh.

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@maxdancona,

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If you are really trying to crush people's world... that seems a little mean.

Any meaner than murdering half a million Iraqi children, then another half a million after your country illegally invaded Iraq?

Is that what you mean by mean, Max?

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@maxdancona,

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I don't owe you or Csmlok anything.

I believe you're under the mistaken impression that my responding to your posts indicates that I think you owe me something. That's not even logical.

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The back and forth about thermite and physics and video had already been said with endless back and forth

Well, actually, here is the forth:

"In videos of the collapse of the North Tower, the upper block is clearly seen dropping down without stopping. You believe that this upper block acted as a pile driver to crush the lower intact core structure below it. But if that were the case, there would have been not only a visible jolt and pause of the downward movement of the upper block, but also the destruction of the more heat-damaged upper block as it met with the lower block. As such, the collapse would have been arrested because the upper block would have been destroyed easier and faster than the intact lower block. But that's not what happened. Once the upper block is in motion, it does not slow down.

"In the case of the South Tower, the upper block tipped over the edge of the building, thereby removing the pile-driver effect which is necessary to your theory. So you claim that some collapsing floors pulled the core and perimeter columns down with them. Of course, you understand that the purpose of the core structure and perimeter columns was to support the floors; not the other way around. Right?"
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I don't recall you or anyone else offering a back to that forth. So go ahead.

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If you want to just continue the mud slinging foolishness where
everyone who doesn't accept what you say is an ignorant coward...

When did I call you an ignorant coward? Think hard . . .

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@maxdancona,

Why do you deny reality, Max? Are you well? What about your family?

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@maxdancona,

The RJLee Group, the USGS, the Steven Jones group all independently found iron microspheres in WTC dust. These iron microspheres are from the nanothermite that was used to blow up the three towers.

RJLee Group found

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“Particles of materials that had been modified by exposure to high temperature, such as spherical particles of iron and silicates, are common in WTC Dust … but are not common in ‘normal’ interior office dust.” [21] This 2003 version of the report even pointed out that, whereas iron particles constitute only 0.04 percent of normal building dust, they constituted an enormous amount of the WTC dust: 5.87 percent (meaning that there was almost 1,500 times more iron in the dust than normal). [22] This earlier version also explicitly stated that iron and other metals were “melted during the WTC Event, producing spherical metallic particles.” [23]

In addition, whereas the 2004 report did not use the word “vaporize,” this earlier version spoke of temperatures “at which lead would have undergone vaporization.” [24] Accordingly, whereas the 2004 report referred to “high temperatures,” the earlier report indicated that the temperatures were not merely high but extremely high, because for lead to boil and hence vaporize, it must be heated to 1,749°C (3,180°F). [25]

http://www.consensus911.org/point-tt-6/

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@Glennn,

What was that you were saying about trolls? Look in a mirror.

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@RABEL222,

I'm was saying that anyone who hasn't refuted any claims, or answered any questions to do with the topic, or provided any counter evidence--or any evidence--produced by other posters is a troll.

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@RABEL222,

The USGS, Steven Jones group of scientists, RJLee Group are trolls, wow, RABEL, you guys are really pushing the limits of sanity.

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@RABEL222,

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a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content

There are loud trolls and silent trolls. You have generally been of the silent variety.

Nanothermite was found in WTC dust. Unreacted, meaning not yet exploded particles of thermite that has not been made in the usual fashion, ie. ground down particles of Iron oxide and aluminum. This high super explosive has been made from the nano scale up. Scientists looking at it can see this because it is at the nano scale.

No one has ever made this stuff before US military labs discovered it in the 1990s. No one knows how to make this stuff except the US military labs and the folks who have patented it.

No one has ever had access to this super explosive nanothermite because it is not commercially available.

What was this super explosive, high grade military NANO scale thermite doing at WTC?

You science deniers are amazing, the vocal ones, like Max, and the silent ones like you.

Normal thinking human beings, adults, would say things like,

"That's awfully strange, why was there this super explosive at WTC? The hijackers could not have brought it. Something this high tech couldn't have just appeared at WTC. Something extremely fishy is going on. This combined with all the other crazy anomalies illustrates that we haven't been told the truth."

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This thread is like the walking dead. Died so long ago; continues to move about as if it has life , but on inspection its only animated by a cannibalistic troll creature.

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@snood,

Gee, Snood, who would have ever thought that you are yet another of those adults who just can't think, adults who will deny reality with a vengeance.

Adults who travel all the way from blatham's thread where they were chastizing georgeob1.

What can't you grasp about the USA's new NANOthermite and its totally unexplained presence at WTC?

This is delusion on a previously unknown level.

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@snood,

'a', Snood. Such flagrant delusion. Max is, was here "discussing" 911, as is Glennn, actually discussing 911, as am I, actually discussing 911.

And then along comes you and Rabel doing the very thing you accuse others of doing - TROLLING, Snood.

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