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Katrina-Bush and the political questions begin

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 04:16 pm
Thomas wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
Oh brother, here we go with the Nanny government! I thought the whole point of the new republican ideology was to do away with Nannyism.

A friend from New Mexico told me they're almost at the point of telling you to drive on the right side of the road. Scary.

you expect me to drive down the middle of the road like I'm some kind of moderate, or, perhaps drive back and forth taking both lanes like some neo-con?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 04:18 pm
You drive on the road? Embarrassed
(Couldn't find any anarchist pathes?)
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 04:54 pm
when I'm driving this I am in the lane posted "low flying aircraft"
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WQARA4kdO2uPo6pwRc3LonH9gCFQUtfDHd3XZeNh44Ez!L4vp87MYctaIBAAIT7PJK3xoTHjxgEwawLuMAqXnnv5M!gpFYeab98mKAPVrDSSwYplPVe3MwCxb!mp8SboWK26zXkzCE4/911rightsideviewdriveway.jpg
when I'm driving this I am not on any road, I'm making my own road;
http://www.geoffdavis.com/pics/PismoJun2002/MROSS/P6290024.JPG
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 04:59 pm
Dys
your at the end of of the road - to high of center of gravity in that toyota
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 05:14 pm
Thanks, Blatham. I had told Setanta earlier that I had some thoughts but no time to put them together at the moment on his "Tempest Tossed" thread.

You basically spelled out where I was planning to go, and did so in a more concise way than I likely would have done.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 10:52 pm
BBB
Now we know why Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff couldn't get FEMA staff and the military to New Orleans for such a long time. He couldn't find New Orleans. Yesterday, during a TV interview, he said, "The City of Louisiana is completely under water."

BBB Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:09 pm
I just got this in my email. Thought you might find this rather interesting. I know I did.


From a freind in MS Roy Fletcher who was former Governor Mike Foster's political advisor has already called for the impeachment and indictment of Governor Blanco.

Regards to all,


Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 3:19 PM

Subject: If this is true, Blanco needs to be exposed, this should not be answered.

On Friday night, August 26, 2005 before the Hurricane hit, Max Mayfield for the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Mayor Nagin of New Orleans and Louisiana Governor Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of New Orleans and they said they'd take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed.

President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act).

Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up.

He was told that they didn't think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet.

After the President's final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in.

Saturday, August 27, before the Hurricane hit, the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation.

After a personal plea from the President, Mayor Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations.

Rumor has it that the President's legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the disaster.

Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to New Orleans for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal government for funding and published on the city's website was never implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining additional federal funding. As we now learn that the organizations identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning, though the document implies that they were.

The suffering people of New Orleans need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Governor Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday, August 31, which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states.

Or maybe ask why Mayor Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them.

This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future.
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:11 pm
wow................
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:11 pm
You got an e-mail.

That entails some pretty serious charges. Do you have an independent source to back up the claims made in the "e-mail" you just got. What wonderful timing, by the way.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:15 pm
Hey Set,

How are you? No, all I have is that email. I have asked for a backup source for it and was told they are looking into it. I just thought it was interesting. So, I can't tell you it is 100% factual or not. Like I said, I just found it interesting. I have wonderful timing? Are you sure you are talking to the right person? Usually when I stick my two cents in a political forum my timing sucks!

Nice to see you though!

Momma Angel
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:15 pm
hey if it's not on snopes or urban legend - it must be true - right
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:17 pm
Hey Husker!

I hate to sound stupid, but who is Snopes or Urban Legend?
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:20 pm
the know it all's on internet truths or something like that -
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:22 pm
Thanx Husker.

Shows you what I know about the internet, doesn't it? Laughing
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:24 pm
anytime I can help an Angel
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:25 pm
Embarrassed
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:27 pm
Mamma Angel--

When in doubt, ask or Google. There are several internet site devoted to debunking rumors--or confirming them.

This is one of the best:

http://www.snopes.com/

Take a look around. Katrina will spawn many urban legends --all of which can be verified by a friend of a friend-- and debunked by Snopes.
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:28 pm
Noddy24 wrote:
Mamma Angel--

When in doubt, ask or Google. There are several internet site devoted to debunking rumors--or confirming them.

This is one of the best:

http://www.snopes.com/

Take a look around. Katrina will spawn many urban legends --all of which can be verified by a friend of a friend-- and debunked by Snopes.


hey that's kind a what I said
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:30 pm
Thanx Noddy.

Well Husker, if two or more say it's so, it must be so! Thanx!
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2005 11:33 pm
good no need to track it down then
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