Thanks for that one, blatham. This was particularly striking, from David Brooks:
Quote:DAVID BROOKS: This is -- first of all it is a national humiliation to see bodies floating in a river for five days in a major American city. But second, you have to remember, this was really a de-legitimization of institutions.
Our institutions completely failed us and it is not as if it is the first in the past three years -- this follows Abu Ghraib, the failure of planning in Iraq, the intelligence failures, the corporate scandals, the media scandals.
We have had over the past four or five years a whole series of scandals that soured the public mood. You've seen a rise in feeling the country is headed in the wrong direction.
And I think this is the biggest one and the bursting one, and I must say personally it is the one that really says hey, it feels like the 70s now where you really have a loss of faith in institutions. Let's get out of this mess. And I really think this is so important as a cultural moment, like the blackouts of 1977, just people are sick of it.
But the federal government's lethal ineptitude wasn't just a consequence of Mr. Bush's personal inadequacy; it was a consequence of ideological hostility to the very idea of using government to serve the public good. For 25 years the right has been denigrating the public sector, telling us that government is always the problem, not the solution. Why should we be surprised that when we needed a government solution, it wasn't forthcoming?
Kanye West's impromptu attack on President Bush during a live telecast Friday prompted NBC to delete his remark in its West Coast broadcast of the benefit for hurricane victims.
"George Bush doesn't care about black people," West said.
Today, from Krugman (it will be interesting to hear Thomas' considerations on this argument)...
Quote:But the federal government's lethal ineptitude wasn't just a consequence of Mr. Bush's personal inadequacy; it was a consequence of ideological hostility to the very idea of using government to serve the public good. For 25 years the right has been denigrating the public sector, telling us that government is always the problem, not the solution. Why should we be surprised that when we needed a government solution, it wasn't forthcoming?
SNAPSHOT - Hurricane Katrina 1900 GMT
NEWS
* New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin tells NBC's Today Show that a death toll of 10,000 "wouldn't be unreasonable."
* Rescuers in boats, helicopters and military vehicles continue their house-to-house search for people still stranded in the city a week after the storm.
* Thousands of New Orleans area residents who fled Hurricane Katrina return for the first time to see what is left of their homes.
* President George W. Bush, under fierce criticism for his government's slow response to the hurricane, tours the affected region for the second time in a week and promises the U.S. will "do what it takes" to help victims of the devastating storm get back on their feet.
* Katrina response prompts questions of race in U.S.
* The U.S. Army says it had closed one major gap in the levees breached by Hurricane Katrina and was close to repairing a second.
* Former U.S. presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton establish a new fund to assist the hundreds of thousands of people displaced by the hurricane.
* Katrina to hurt 2005 US growth, boost 2006, analysts say.
* Local officials believe thousands remain in the once-vibrant city despite mass evacuations before and after Katrina struck the U.S. Gulf Coast last Monday, hammering an area the size of Britain in one of the biggest natural disasters in American history.
* State authorities say Louisiana's official death toll of 59 could rise into the thousands. Well over 100 deaths have been confirmed in Mississippi, with many people unaccounted for.
* South Korea and Australia voice frustration that U.S. relief efforts have prevented them from rescuing their citizens.
* BP Plc says it has restarted oil production at some of its Gulf of Mexico facilities which had been shut due to hurricane.
* Oil dips to pre-Katrina $65 on inventory release.
QUOTES
"This is one of the disasters that will test our soul, and test our spirits," President Bush says.
"We advise people that this city has been destroyed, it has completely been destroyed," says New Orleans Deputy Police Chief Warren Riley.
"Recovery is going to take years. We need to help these Gulf Coast communities and, of course, the great city of New Orleans get back on their feet," former president George Bush tells a news conference. "The job is too big, too overwhelming for any one group."
"I try to be upbeat but it's devastating. I may lose my house because I may not be able to make my payments, and I don't know when I'm going to work again," says Mark Becker, who returned to see his devastated home.
"We're angry, Mr. President," the New Orleans Times-Picayune said in an open letter.
Chertoff clueless about hurricane
Homeland Security director says planners never saw disaster coming
Posted: September 5, 2005
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON - In a press conference sure to deepen problems for besieged Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff, he defended the government's response to Hurricane Katrina and told reporters government planners never imagined the New Orleans disaster could have occurred.
This despite the fact that the New Orleans hurricane scenario was the Federal Emergency Management Agency's No. 1 disaster planning scenario for several years.
In fact, government officials, scientists and journalists have warned of precisely this scenario for years.
Chertoff, fielding questions from reporters, said government officials did not expect both a powerful hurricane and a breach of levees that would flood the city of New Orleans.
"That 'perfect storm' of a combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners, and maybe anybody's foresight," Chertoff said.
He called the disaster "breathtaking in its surprise."
But engineers say the levees preventing this below-sea-level city from being turned into a swamp were built to withstand only Category 3 hurricanes. And officials have warned for years that a Category 4 could cause the levees to fail.
Katrina was a Category 4 hurricane when it struck the Gulf Coast Aug. 29.
Last week, Michael Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, told CNN his agency had recently planned for a Category 5 hurricane hitting New Orleans.
Speaking to "Larry King Live" Aug. 31, in the wake of Katrina, Brown said, "That Category 4 hurricane caused the same kind of damage that we anticipated. So we planned for it two years ago. Last year, we exercised it. And unfortunately this year, we're implementing it."
Brown suggested FEMA - part of the Department of Homeland Security - was carrying out a prepared plan, rather than having to suddenly create a new one.
Chertoff argued that authorities actually had assumed that "there would be overflow from the levee, maybe a small break in the levee. The collapse of a significant portion of the levee leading to the very fast flooding of the city was not envisioned."
He added: "There will be plenty of time to go back and say we should hypothesize evermore apocalyptic combinations of catastrophes. Be that as it may, I'm telling you this is what the planners had in front of them. They were confronted with a second wave that they did not have built into the plan, but using the tools they had, we have to move forward and adapt."
But New Orleans, state and federal officials have long painted a very different picture.
"We certainly understood the potential impact of a Category 4 or 5 hurricane" on New Orleans, Lt. General Carl Strock, chief of engineers for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
In 2002, the New Orleans Times-Picayune ran a five-part series exploring the vulnerability of the city. The newspaper, and other news media as well, specifically addressed the possibility of massive floods drowning residents, destroying homes and releasing toxic chemicals throughout the city.
But Chertoff seemed unaware of all the warnings.
"This is really one which I think was breathtaking in its surprise," Chertoff said. "There has been, over the last few years, some specific planning for the possibility of a significant hurricane in New Orleans with a lot of rainfall, with water rising in the levees and water overflowing the levees," he told reporters.
That alone would be "a very catastrophic scenario," Chertoff said. "And although the planning was not complete, a lot of work had been done. But there were two problems here. First of all, it's as if someone took that plan and dropped an atomic bomb simply to make it more difficult. We didn't merely have the overflow, we actually had the break in the wall. And I will tell you that, really, that perfect storm of combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners, and maybe anybody's foresight."
Chertoff also argued that authorities did not have much notice that the storm would be so powerful and could make a direct hit on New Orleans.
"It wasn't until comparatively late, shortly before - a day, maybe a day and a half, before landfall - that it became clear that this was going to be a Category 4 or 5 hurricane headed for the New Orleans area."
As far back as Friday, Aug. 26, the National Hurricane Center was predicting the storm could be a Category 4 hurricane at landfall, with New Orleans directly in its path. Still, storms do change paths, so the possibility existed that it might not hit the city.
But the National Weather Service prediction proved almost perfect.
"I think we have discovered over the last few days that with all the tremendous effort using the existing resources and the traditional frameworks of the National Guard, the unusual set of challenges of conducting a massive evacuation in the context of a still dangerous flood requires us to basically break the traditional model and create a new model - one for what you might call kind of an ultracatastrophe," Chertoff said.
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Oh brother, here we go with the Nanny government! I thought the whole point of the new republican ideology was to do away with Nannyism.
Quote:Chertoff clueless about hurricane
Homeland Security director says planners never saw disaster coming
Posted: September 5, 2005
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON - In a press conference sure to deepen problems for besieged Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff, he defended the government's response to Hurricane Katrina and told reporters government planners never imagined the New Orleans disaster could have occurred.
This despite the fact that the New Orleans hurricane scenario was the Federal Emergency Management Agency's No. 1 disaster planning scenario for several years.
In fact, government officials, scientists and journalists have warned of precisely this scenario for years.
I guess he forgot to watch PBS in 2002.