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Why Do Higher Gas Prices Anger You?

 
 
bermbits
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 04:17 am
In NH, "they" are saying heating oil may double over last year. That's a comforting thought.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 04:42 am
Que sera, sera. I am not going to get myself into a snit about this, since there is not much that I can do about it.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 05:53 am
Note that the ongoing hurricane will likely play havok with our oil supply; 1/3 of all refineries on the Gulf Coast are in the path of the storm. There's very little doubt that prices are going to rise, at least in the short term.

Cycloptichorn
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 05:59 am
Already jumped to over $70 / barrel.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 06:03 am
Just read a Bloomberg article that said:

Quote:
"The amount of lost production is equal to almost all the spare capacity in the world."


http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aCdo2Um_a3yE&refer=home

No Bueno, amigos

Cycloptichorn
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 06:44 am
so, here we go again..
instead of projecting ' travel needs' for a reason to raise as prices, they will use a real natural disaster to skyrocket the prices . Leave them there for a month or so , and when they come down to their standing rate, we will be at .. I am going to guess.... 2.60 a gallon. And that will be considered the new " norm" for a gallon of gas..
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 06:51 am
Yep. Good points raised by folks about winter and heating oil and natural gas. For those of us with cold, long winters, that's a real hit. If you think an extra $20 a month will break your budget, think about paying an extra $150 a month to heat your house (on top of the already budget-busting $300). And there's just no way around it, either, because you have to heat your house. We're replacing all of our windows this year precisely for that reason, but now it looks like any savings we might have gotten from that will be eaten by an increase in prices.

I'm thinking that it's time for us (as a country) to stop talking about alternative sources of energy and start doing something about it.
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 06:53 am
But... but... but, it'll be because of holiday travel season and continued high demand due to the great economic recovery we're seeing from the permenant tax cuts and $300 refunds from 2002.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 07:00 am
Quote:
I'm thinking that it's time for us (as a country) to stop talking about alternative sources of energy and start doing something about it.


Yup. Time to start riding yer bike to work, everyone.

Time to start insulating the 'ol house with this stuff:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-37,GGLD:en&q=aerogel

Read up on it; amazing stuff.

Cheers

Cycloptichorn
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 07:27 am
FreeDuck wrote:
If you think an extra $20 a month will break your budget, think about paying an extra $150 a month to heat your house (on top of the already budget-busting $300). And there's just no way around it, either, because you have to heat your house. We're replacing all of our windows this year precisely for that reason, but now it looks like any savings we might have gotten from that will be eaten by an increase in prices.

I'm thinking that it's time for us (as a country) to stop talking about alternative sources of energy and start doing something about it.


Shocked
wow, no, i couldnt imagine that. That is terrible.

I believe there ARE alternitive sources of heat.. Just dont know where/what they are. Maybe because the discoveries are not made public.
Imagine if something 3xs cheaper and more abundant could heat better maybe even faster with less damage to the ozone?
The oil companies would definatly suffer in profits.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 07:38 am
Yeah, I don't know either. We have a few wind farms here, but I believe they mostly generate electric. I don't know what it would cost to convert our furnace from gas to electric, but that might be the best answer if electricity remains affordable.

You know, all this is making me wish we had a president, or at least a leader, who knew how to say "I feel your pain". Laughing
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 07:51 am
Last spring the oil company that supplies my Mom and step-dads heating fuel offered customers the opportunity to lock in at current Spring prices. They pre-bought $1000 worth. They are very glad they did.
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Montana
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 08:17 am
FreeDuck wrote:
Yeah, I don't know either. We have a few wind farms here, but I believe they mostly generate electric. I don't know what it would cost to convert our furnace from gas to electric, but that might be the best answer if electricity remains affordable.

You know, all this is making me wish we had a president, or at least a leader, who knew how to say "I feel your pain". Laughing


With the price of oil constantly rising, we're seriously thinking about changing our whole heating system.
Now if they could come up with cars that don't run on gas, I'll be good to go.
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Montana
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 08:19 am
squinney wrote:
Last spring the oil company that supplies my Mom and step-dads heating fuel offered customers the opportunity to lock in at current Spring prices. They pre-bought $1000 worth. They are very glad they did.


We've had that option as long as we've lived in this house and I hope it stays that way.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 10:20 am
I'm glad I bought a new bike a month ago. Now, to figure out how to raise the handlebars safely.


<looking for BoGoWo's #>
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 10:48 am
Really, what kind of bike?

I'm buying some new pedals this week:

http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Pedal/product_122526.shtml

I'd like to hear other people's ideas for conserving energy/gasoline. Right now I'm toying around with building a windmill in my front yard and perhaps a rainwater/moisture collection system.

Cycloptichorn
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 10:52 am
http://images.canadiantire.ca/media/images/BicyclesAccessories/BikesAdult/0711284_450_CC_32f1b.jpg

The Fringe ... click
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 10:55 am
As far as cars go, I already drive a small car that gets good gas mileage, and when it comes time for a new one (two years or so) I'll buy a hybrid. We also always try to live close to where we work, both to save time and gas money.

We've never built a house, but if we ever do I will pay close attention to how it is designed to take advantage of passive solar heating and lighting and wind cooling. I feel very strongly that a lot of the waste in terms of energy and everything else is due to our poorly designed buildings and cities. In short, there are no quick and simple fixes to this problem.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 10:58 am
Geez! FULL Suspension.

I had mine raised. They took off the handlebars and installed a riser with some kind of tricky name. Cost was about $20.00. Only raised them about another inch, but that's significant.

Dunno about the electric heating, FreeDuck. Unless you're in a region with cheap hydro plants or coal fired plants., the electric cost is apt to parallel the oil prices.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2005 10:59 am
i turn off my heat/air at 9 every morning and dont turn it back onuntil 7pm.
in the summer i keep it at 78-80.
In the winter it is set at 60. ( i wear clothes if i am cold)
I dont let my gas tank go below 1/2 tank. Better gas mileage that way.
I keep the setting of my water heater low too.. forgot what it is.. but Confused
on top of that I dont ever turn my water up all the way in the shower. I dont need alot of pressure to wash myself.
I also dont use the heat dry in my dish washer.

Of course, car maintance makes a diffrence as well.
The only traveling we do is the Mister uses the car back and forth to work.
Other then that we live close enough we walk alot or use thebus.
we have electric HE washer/dryer and always keep the windows covered with thick curtains.

a few other things. not nearly as much as we can do. But for right now without dumping thousands into home changes.. that is what we can do.
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