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I don't think Robertson would make such a statement without self-interest behind it.
We know he craves attention by the number of outlandish statements he makes. I also think he makes them for fund-raising purposes. He gets all the idiots who adore him all riled up and they send him their social security money.
Sly as a fox.
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Merry Andrew wrote:Chavez is probably the first Venezuelan leader who has ever actually done some positive things for the Venezuelans people instead of playing footsie with US big oil interests. No wonder the relligious right hates him.
Especially for the poor Venezuelans. Like the alphabetization program. Or the medical-oil swap, where 20,000 Cubans, including more than 14,000 physicians, were sent to treat poor Venezuelans for free. In exchange, Venezuela ships Cuba 90,000 barrels of oil a day under preferential terms.
Social programs
and selling oil to Cuba? He
must be evil...
Next thing ya know, he's gonna start public schools and voter registration programs . . . is there no end to his depravity ? ! ? ! ?
old europe wrote:Preaching hate, inciting people, telling your followers via television that killing people would be a good idea.... And all of that from a religious leader.
Kind of sounds familiar.
So, as Freeduck said, let's assume he was Muslim. A muslim preacher. Telling people that it would be a good idea to assasinate Bush. On tv.
Would that still just be a "stupid comment"? Would he still have a right to say that?
thanks, but we have one of those already. osama bin laden.
the only way to tell him and robertson apart is by the version of the book they use to justify every thing they spew out.
Chavez is offering 1/2 price gas to poor U.S. citizens.
Thomas wrote:Baldimo wrote:You guys give way to much power to Robertson. His comment was stupid he still has a right to say it.
Incitement to murder is legal in the US? It is even a free speech right? That surprises me, and I won't believe it without a credible source. At the very least, it's a sin, which should be reason enough for a devoted Christian not to do it.
Thomas I think the language probably isn't definite enough to fall under an incitement statute or piece of legislation.
I didn't see or hear the language, could anyone give me a link, apologies if links have been given before this.
Fatwas are well deplorable and I am guessing this is no less than one. I say I am guessing since I haven't heard the exact words. (I don't watch tv, and won't again until I get cable in a new place). And I am listening to italian pop as I pack paintings, missed npr.
As a surface reviewer of worldwide news with occasional dips to more than surface, I readily claim ignorance with ease. I've read various plusses and minuses on Chavez but can't just type the lists out. In any case, it is none, none, none, and then none, of our g/damned business.
edit to fix spelling of apologies
edit again since I thought I already edited out all those 'no less' es.
What will or will not be said by other powerful religious right groups and persons AND this modern Republican party which has relied upon the chrisitian right to gain and maintain power is going to tell us the tale of things. Does integrity mean anything at all? Are the Ten Commandments nailed up on the wall just to bring out the green in the carpet and bearing false witness and murder are silly, quaint old rules to be quite ignored when votes are at stake?
Quote:Some of Mr. Robertson's allies distanced themselves from his comments. The Rev. Rob Schenck, president of the National Clergy Council, released a statement saying Mr. Robertson should "immediately apologize, retract his statement and clarify what the Bible and Christianity teaches about the permissibility of taking human life outside of law."
The Rev. Richard Cizik of the National Association of Evangelicals said he and "most evangelical leaders" would disassociate themselves from such "unfortunate and particularly irresponsible" comments.
"It complicates circumstances for foreign missionaries and Christian aid workers overseas who are already perceived, wrongly, especially by leftists and other leaders, as collaborators with U.S. intelligence agencies," Mr. Cizik added.
But other conservative Christian organizations remained silent, with leaders at the Traditional Values Coalition, the Family Research Council and the Christian Coalition saying they were too busy to comment.
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And will Canada's Prime Minister soon become another target for a Robertson Righteous Rubout or a Falwell Fatwa?
Professor urges nationalized petroleum industry
Quote:MONTREAL (CP) - Canadians should pressure the federal government to nationalize the foreign-controlled petroleum industry, a Quebec university professor said Tuesday.
"We have to stop saying nothing can be done," said Accounting Prof. Leo- Paul Lauzon of the University of Quebec at Montreal.
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Pat just said publicly what many administrations already have been doing in Latin America for many years. While I see him as a nut case, his grasp of governmental thinking is spot-on.
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The line I like is...
"...he [Allbritton] believes Robertson has been 'called by God' to speak out on issues that need addressing."
blatham- Now if I had said what Robertson did, I probably would have been hauled out in a strait jacket.
Not if you were the CIA.
You'd have had Chavez pulled out in one - or a bodybag....
Wow. You guys sure make Chavez look almost saintly.
That figures though. He is a terrorist sympathizer and we all know that makes him alright in the liberal handbook.
That is so typical, McG. This thread is not about Chavez, it's about Pat Robertson.
McGentrix wrote:Wow. You guys sure make Chavez look almost saintly.
That figures though. He is a terrorist sympathizer and we all know that makes him alright in the liberal handbook.
crap McG - you can do better than that. Now come on, make an effort and stop backsliding.
McGentrix wrote:Wow. You guys sure make Chavez look almost saintly.
That figures though. He is a terrorist sympathizer and we all know that makes him alright in the liberal handbook.
This is about Pat Robertson
Maybe you should start your own thread on how the U.S. should follow through and send in the bombers