Pat Robertson Calls for Assassination of Hugo Chavez!!!

dlowan wrote:

Well, hopefully no assassination will result!

But - do these people not have panting millions of our less intellectually gifted christians hanging on their every word?

One would hope some sort of official negative comment will be made about his nonsense - from your political and religious leadership.

The only problem with this is...he is the religious leadership.

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Who's going to speak out against him, Jerry Falwell? Hahahahahahaha!!!

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Robertson is NOT a peripheral figure standing far outside the margins of the modern American christian right. He has been and remains a central and influential figure in this movement.

His 700 Club is seen in 95% of the American TV markets and seen daily by some one million viewers.

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According to his "official site" (http://www.patrobertson.com/), "M. G. 'Pat' Robertson has achieved national and international recognition as a religious broadcaster, philanthropist, educator, religious leader, businessman, and author. He is the founder and chairman of The Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) Inc., and founder of International Family Entertainment Inc., Regent University, Operation Blessing International Relief and Development Corporation, American Center for Law and Justice]], The Flying Hospital, Inc. and several other organizations and broadcast entities.

"Founded in 1960, CBN was the first Christian television network established in the United States. Today CBN is one of the world's largest television ministries and produces programming seen in 180 nations and heard in 71 languages including Russian, Arabic, Spanish, French and Chinese. CBN's flagship program, The 700 Club, which Mr. Robertson hosts, is one of the longest running religious television shows and reaches an average of one million American viewers daily."

"Robertson was born on March 22, 1930, in Lexington, Virginia, to A. Willis Robertson and Gladys Churchill Robertson. His father served for 34 years in the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. Robertson's ancestry includes Benjamin Harrison, a signer of the Declaration of Independence and governor of Virginia, and two United States presidents, William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, the great-grandson of the signer of the Declaration of Independence. Robertson also shares ancestry with Winston Churchill."

"After graduating with honors from McCallie School in Chattanooga, Tennessee, a military prep school, Robertson entered Washington and Lee University in 1946, where he was elected to Phi Beta Kappa. In 1948 he enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. After graduating magna cum laude with a Bachelor of Arts degree from Washington and Lee in 1950, Robertson served as the assistant adjutant of the First Marine Division in combat in Korea. He was promoted to first lieutenant in 1952 upon his return to the United States. Robertson received a juris doctor degree from Yale University Law School in 1955 and a master of divinity degree from New York Theological Seminary in 1959."

"Robertson is past president of the prestigious Council on National Policy. In 1982 he served on President Ronald Reagan's Task Force on Victims of Crime. He is currently a member of the Board of the Virginia Economic Development Partnership, and previously served on the Governor's Council of Economic Advisors in the State of Virginia."

Pat Robertson, was presented with The State of Israel Friendship Award by the Chicago chapter of the Zionist Organization of America in July, 2002.

Lots here

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Robertson revealed his charm earlier when he stated on a broadcast of the 700 club that people should only vote for self-identified christians. None of those hirsute and suspicous Jews, thank you very much.

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dlowan wrote:

One would hope some sort of official negative comment will be made about his nonsense - from your political and religious leadership.

a State Department spokesman called Robertson's remarks "inappropriate." of course, Robertson once said the State Department should be nuked, so the spokesman might not be totally objective. Rolling Eyes

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"Inappropriate" is using the wrong fork for salad.

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You guys give way to much power to Robertson. His comment was stupid he still has a right to say it. As others have already pointed out the left while a supposed bastion of free speech it only applies to those they agree with. Several people on this site have already said he should be committed. Isn't that infringing on his free speech? Continued hypocrisy of the left.

Free speech for me but not for thee.

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Baldimo wrote:

You guys give way to much power to Robertson. His comment was stupid he still has a right to say it. As others have already pointed out the left while a supposed bastion of free speech it only applies to those they agree with. Several people on this site have already said he should be committed. Isn't that infringing on his free speech? Continued hypocrisy of the left.

Free speech for me but not for thee.

You do have clear in your head that criticism of speech is not censorship of speech?

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blatham wrote:

Baldimo wrote:
You guys give way to much power to Robertson. His comment was stupid he still has a right to say it. As others have already pointed out the left while a supposed bastion of free speech it only applies to those they agree with. Several people on this site have already said he should be committed. Isn't that infringing on his free speech? Continued hypocrisy of the left.

Free speech for me but not for thee.

You do have clear in your head that criticism of speech is not censorship of speech?

As CostalRat said, tell that to the people in the grieving mommy thread.

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As CostalRat said, tell that to the people in the grieving mommy thread.

Can you (or CR)) point out some instance there of someone insisting that speakers not speak?

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Baldimo wrote:

You guys give way to much power to Robertson. His comment was stupid he still has a right to say it. As others have already pointed out the left while a supposed bastion of free speech it only applies to those they agree with. Several people on this site have already said he should be committed. Isn't that infringing on his free speech? Continued hypocrisy of the left.

Free speech for me but not for thee.

Let's pretend it was a muslim cleric saying that Bush should be assassinated. Still ok with it?

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Actually I got Roberston all wrong. He was merely belling the cat. What he has in effect done is ensure that the US doesn't assassinate Chavez. How can they do away with him now? Pat's on the job!

Pity he couldn't save Salvador Allende Evil or Very Mad

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I wonder if it is just the communist thing though, that makes Patty hate Chavez so much. What if Chavez had a strictly nationalist/fascist agenda? Would that be better....?

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Baldimo wrote:

You guys give way to much power to Robertson. His comment was stupid he still has a right to say it.

Incitement to murder is legal in the US? It is even a free speech right? That surprises me, and I won't believe it without a credible source. At the very least, it's a sin, which should be reason enough for a devoted Christian not to do it.

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It is, however, Robertson's god-given and constitutional right to be a fecking idiot on nationally broadcast television, so that pinheaded little children right across the country can point to him and say: "I wanna be just like him when i grow up!"

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Preaching hate, inciting people, telling your followers via television that killing people would be a good idea.... And all of that from a religious leader.

Kind of sounds familiar.

So, as Freeduck said, let's assume he was Muslim. A muslim preacher. Telling people that it would be a good idea to assasinate Bush. On tv.

Would that still just be a "stupid comment"? Would he still have a right to say that?

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I know Robertson's an idiot and national menace. I do not know that much about Chavez, but I do buy only CITGO gasoline (from Venezuela) because I do not want to give my money to ExxonMobil or ChevronTexaco, etc.

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goodfielder wrote:

Oh so it's force a false democracy in Iraq and overturn a real democracy in Venezuela. Common denominator = oil.

Not that I'm surprised, it's just nice to have it all clarified.

I just found this thread and am skipping some pages to say I appreciate that post, goodfielder, a zinger.

On Sheehan, most here know I agree with her. I'm not sure about her exact choice of heroics and am not put out that anyone would question her motives. But I see her stance as entirely different than a major - if only newsprint-wise - US public figure calling for assassination.

More to my own concern, as it is a given to me that some looney will try to act on his call, is what happens in response to this dangerous buffoon.

OK, I'll settle down and read the rest of the thread.

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Chavez' power base is among the poor of Venezuela (read: huge majority). A year ago, the right wingnuts tried to oust him with a referendum, and when that failed, they attepted a coup, which also failed. The right claims he is illegally manipulating the courst and the legislature to enact social legislation. The courts, however, have ruled against their law suits.

He has made smiling public appearances with Castro, so, as you might imagine, they're foaming at the mouth in Little Havana. The Freepers claim he has ties to al Qaeda--but hey, the Freepers think Bush is an intelligent man.

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Chavez is probably the first Venezuelan leader who has ever actually done some positive things for the Venezuelans people instead of playing footsie with US big oil interests. No wonder the relligious right hates him.

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