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Question for those having affairs with Married Person

 
 
kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:15 pm
Are you saying I judged you? I didn't judge you. I don't have anything against whores, I'm just saying that if you are seeing someone else's spouse, you are one.
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trfirst
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:22 pm
Thats you opinion only, people who know me know I am far from a whore. Good luck in your perfect life, I am done with this thread no need in discussing an issue with so many close minded people.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:23 pm
When it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and flips out when a random comment is made...it must be a duck. Get it?
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trfirst
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:27 pm
I am not flipping out over a comment, I just don't agree with name calling I thought we were adults here. Guess I was wrong.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:29 pm
I am sorry trfirst. That was really mean. I shouldn't have said it.

I apologize. I don't really believe that, I was just having an argument with someone else and was all fired up. No excuse. Just an apology.
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trfirst
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:32 pm
Besides no matter what anyone says or thinks I know my situation I know I did not break up a marriage, I did however make a mistake of getting involved before a divorce was final, he has been out of the house for 19 months now and I have been seeing him for 7 of them. My mistake yes, but my point before was every situation is different and we should be careful to not judge and put everyone in the same category. Yes I should have waited until his divorce was final but I did not break up his marriage, he did that on his own.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:32 pm
I am really pissed off now. Apparently, trfirst has something against whores.

Damn, people can be so judgmental.
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trfirst
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 01:33 pm
I give kickycan credit for that one, point for you that was a good one on me.
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 02:38 pm
kickycan wrote:
I agree completely with Chai Tea. I would have put it a little more bluntly though, like, for instance...

If you are going out with a someone else's spouse, you are a whore.

I think that about sums it up.


Thank You Dear
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 02:41 pm
trfirst wrote:
Thats you opinion only, people who know me know I am far from a whore. Good luck in your perfect life, I am done with this thread no need in discussing an issue with so many close minded people.


Hey! Wait a darn minute here! You said you were done with this thread.

Are you a liar as well?
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 02:45 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
kickycan wrote:
I agree completely with Chai Tea. I would have put it a little more bluntly though, like, for instance...

If you are going out with a someone else's spouse, you are a whore.

I think that about sums it up.


Shocked

I love it when you talk dirty.


Welcome back Bella - A voice of reason in the wilderness.

You lyin' whore you. <kiss, kiss>
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Tijeras
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 02:58 pm
Name calling
Bad, bad...when name calling comes into the game (and "whore" is a good example), is because you pushed buttons and people don't know how to handle it.
The first to insult loses anyways. So, don't worry, tr. You do not need to justify yourself either. I think that if any man is unfaithful is because (definitely) something is not working on, AND there is no communication in his marriage. Something he and his wife must solve, but barely do. Mainly because most people do not confront their fears.
Instead of confronting fears, other people yell and insult. Their problem.

Do not blame it on the "single X".
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 03:32 pm
Bella -Are you mad I called you a lyin' little whore?


I mean, there you are, telling people you've been in a coma for an entire week, when all this time you've been frolicking and up to God knows what in Michigan.

I personally think you needed some time for the chafing on your thighs to heal.

That JLLLLLLLL really gave you a workin' over, didn't he.
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dora17
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 07:03 pm
Bella and JLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! I knew it! I totally saw that comin'....
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LoveMyFamily
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2005 09:37 pm
kickycan wrote:
I agree completely with Chai Tea. I would have put it a little more bluntly though, like, for instance...

If you are going out with a someone else's spouse, you are a whore.

I think that about sums it up.


You all seem to bring it up on the "single woman". If you prefer calling this woman whore, then what does that make the cheating husband? Could you not find any insulting words for the one that broke the vows and cheated on his wife? Now that is sad.

trfirst may have her reasons to see this person. But what about the person she was seeing.

Moreover, I just disagree with the name calling. I think this was totally uncalled for.
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flushd
 
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2005 12:50 am
The person cheating, and the one who he/she is cheating with are not whores (no one is getting paid, right?! ).
I think the correct term would be slut.
You could call it name calling, but that pretty much is what a slut is: someone who screws around irresponsibly.
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bess
 
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2005 05:37 am
Some affairs are just bound to happen.

I don't expect no congratulations for this, in fact I suppose I'm only posting because of lack of friends or family I can tell, I'm hardly proud of whats happening.

So from the begginning.
My marriage, for normal non-affair type reasons, broke down 10 yrs ago.
I met my now MM who was unmarried at the time. We were very very attracted until I found out he was living with a girl, I then backed off fast.
I ended up going out with a friend of his despite his pleading with me that he was finishing with his girlfriend, big mistake!
Anyway he finishes with her but by that time I'm already involved with this other man. My "friend" although still deeply attracted to me, gives up, meets someone else and marries her very, far too quickly.
For the next 5 years he still makes it obvious he feels we've both made a big mistake, but neither of us take the inevitable step.
My relationship then breaks down, but I still won't give into him, he's married, now the father of a little girl.
For the past couple of years I've even refused to meet him for coffee, but still the texts kept coming.

End of story, I've given in, I love him and always have done deep down. Sorry but I don't feel guilty about the wife, don't even particularly like her, but his daughter is another story. She's so special.

I don't like to hazard a guess as to where this will go, only last night my now MM was so down at the thought of loosing me or making a choice between me and his daughter, he appears on the verge of a breakdown and all I want to do is hug him and make it better.

Bess
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2005 06:33 am
Chai Tea wrote:
Bella -Are you mad I called you a lyin' little whore?





Of course not. If there is anything I like more than Kicky talking dirty, it's you talking dirty. :wink:
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Chai
 
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2005 07:19 am
Re: Question for those having affairs with Married Person
Chai Tea wrote:
Actually, I should say, affairs with Married Man, since it seems it's always the single ladies who are posting.
So, I shall use feminine pronouns for simplicity....

From my readings of these threads, I seldom if ever see someone address or even seemingly think of the issue of the wife who is being cheated on.

Legitimate questions:
Do you ever think of this person who is the one married to the man you are having sex with?
Do you ever consider or visualize this person as a human being?
Do you even care, or are you going on the supposition that she must be a completely dreadful person, or her husband would not be cheating on her?
Do you realize the havoc you are creating for someone else?

I am not denying that there are troubled marriages out there, and that at times it may be a marriage in name only. However, consider the following.....

Speaking from experience, being a married woman is a position that holds respect, honor and dignity.
Being a wife is NOT being a girlfriend, or someone who is "having a relationship" with a man. It is not "hanging out" with this guy.

She is his WIFE, a person who has made vows to him, (and he to her) to live together as one, create a family from that bond, and cherish each other above all others. She is his mate.

The man you are having sex with is, by the nature of your affair, a liar.
He is lying by commission or ommision to his wife. Why would you think he is not lying to you?

This man you are having sex with has broken his vows. How can he be a man of honor?

This is a serious inquiry - what exactly is your rationalization for committing adultery?


I didn't initiate this post with the intention of hearing affair stories. Frankly, they are all very boring, especially considering they all happen to be written by people who have only 1 or 2 posts on A2K.
Why, if I didn't know better, I would swear they were being written by the same person, using different log ins. But, I know that would never happen.

My purpose was to find out, what exactly is going through the head of the person having an affair with a married person regarding the spouse involved.

I have made it clear I am not "picking on" the woman, and I'm not going to repeat myself, or argue the same "but....premise ad nauseum.

If you're looking for validation of your adultery, you're not going to get it here.

My other purpose is perhaps to prick some conscious.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2005 07:21 am
Hi. I'm a guy and I once had a (brief) affair with a married woman, so I guess I might as well reply - I just love questionnaires ;-).

Affair didnt last long - just a lot of phone conversations and then two trips abroad we made together. Second trip was awkward as I pretty much had already thought the better of it; not because she was married but because I wasnt interested anymore. She was intelligent, very active and great in bed, but that was pretty much it. Didnt stay in touch for long after that, I basically cut it off.

When we first started talking, she'd just cut off another affair, and she hooked up with a guy for fun in between him and me too. She and her husband were in the process of breaking up - they now did, I suppose, cause last I heard she lived halfway across the world from him. They have two kids.

Chai Tea wrote:
Legitimate questions:
Do you ever think of this person who is the one married to the man you are having sex with?

Rarely. I did occasionally and found myself speculating on what must all have gone wrong in their relationship to make her so unhappy in it, then decided speculation is senseless. Did ask her some stuff, and from what she told me I could see why she was straying. Not that I judged him, like that he must just not have been a good enough man for her, or that he must have done something wrong; their relationship was messed up so I'm sure they did that together. Thats not where I came in, anyway.

Chai Tea wrote:
Do you ever consider or visualize this person as a human being?

Sure. Occasionally wondered how he was doing, probably not too well (but then neither was she). Thinking he'd find someone else soon enough, if he hadnt already, and that he'd definitely be better off doing so.

Chai Tea wrote:
Do you even care, or are you going on the supposition that she must be a completely dreadful person, or her husband would not be cheating on her?

No, not going on that supposition (see above). Do think thats a mistake many make, in that you're right, makes things easier I suppose. As for whether I cared, well yes and no I guess. I could imagine him as a person and felt a bit sorry for him, but no I didnt consider it my responsibility to take his well-being into account. If anything that should be his wife's (if not his own, foremost).

Chai Tea wrote:
Do you realize the havoc you are creating for someone else?

N/a. If a wife decides to cheat on her husband (and she'd already pretty much chosen to, or chosen to want to, before we met), that's not havoc I create, just cause she chooses to do it with me.

Chai Tea wrote:
The man you are having sex with is, by the nature of your affair, a liar.
He is lying by commission or ommision to his wife. Why would you think he is not lying to you?

She might well have been. In fact, I know she fudged up a couple of things. Told me at first that in all practical senses they were already divorced, when it later turned out they were still living together, with the kids. Didn't particularly like that, but since I wasn't interested in anything solid/long-term with her anyway I wasn't particularly bothered by it either.

Chai Tea wrote:
This man you are having sex with has broken his vows. How can he be a man of honor?

She was a woman with good intentions, trying to do what was right for her and balancing that with doing what was right for the people around her - if failing as often as she succceeded. Thats good enough for any friend of mine.

Chai Tea wrote:
This is a serious inquiry - what exactly is your rationalization for committing adultery?

Personal responsibility. Her marriage is not my responsibility; it's hers. If she thinks the right thing for her right now is to cheat, it's not up to me to second-guess her take.
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