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Reasons to not want Hillary in '24

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 10:38 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Biden could use his bully pulpit to champion the things he promised, to rail against Sinema and Manchin, rather than embracing them.
He knows what he’s doing, and so do his former supporters.

Republicans openly oppose people-friendly policies; Democrats use subterfuge.


People like you will always do as much as possible to damage left leaning candidates...while pretending to be a left-leaning individual themselves. People like YOU and your ilk...do more damage to progressive policy than the far right.

So...continue your help. The right loves your kind.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 10:38 am
@edgarblythe,
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.

You started a post about a non-issue, a conspiracy laden Republican talking point, then proceed to bash anything and everything Democratic.

Quote:
If we could persuade the Democrats to fight for what's right I would join them in voting their way.


Well, I guess I'm glad you came out as a Trumpster. May you find comfort in that.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 10:46 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Biden could use his bully pulpit to champion the things he promised, to rail against Sinema and Manchin, rather than embracing them.

Only if he were an effective speaker.

Even then, what would railing against those two accomplish? Manchin, in particular, gets more voter support by not supporting Biden's initiatives. And if either one of them chooses to leave the Democratic caucus, McConnell becomes majority leader.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 11:13 am
@Frank Apisa,
I don't understand why every response to Lash has to be personal attacks. I don't understand why a2k allows this which is similar to stalking.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Lash wrote:

Biden could use his bully pulpit to champion the things he promised, to rail against Sinema and Manchin, rather than embracing them.
He knows what he’s doing, and so do his former supporters.

Republicans openly oppose people-friendly policies; Democrats use subterfuge.


People like you will always do as much as possible to damage left leaning candidates...while pretending to be a left-leaning individual themselves. People like YOU and your ilk...do more damage to progressive policy than the far right.

So...continue your help. The right loves your kind.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 11:18 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
I don't understand why every response to Lash has to be personal attacks. I don't understand why a2k allows this which is similar to stalking.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Lash wrote:

Biden could use his bully pulpit to champion the things he promised, to rail against Sinema and Manchin, rather than embracing them.
He knows what he’s doing, and so do his former supporters.

Republicans openly oppose people-friendly policies; Democrats use subterfuge.


People like you will always do as much as possible to damage left leaning candidates...while pretending to be a left-leaning individual themselves. People like YOU and your ilk...do more damage to progressive policy than the far right.

So...continue your help. The right loves your kind.



I understand that you do not understand.

I also understand that you often use "every" (as in "...every response to Lash...) when you should be using "often."

Do you "understand" why you do it?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 12:09 pm
https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2022/01/10/bernie-sanders-urges-democrats-to-focus-on-working-class-people/

A president who knew and cared about the reality of non-rich Americans would be speaking that truth at every opportunity.

…like Bernie Sanders does and has been doing for 30 years.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 02:38 pm
When even CNN asks these questions -
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 03:18 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
When even CNN asks these questions -

I would have thought it obvious – every click on the story means more money they can charge their advertisers. Sanders could have told you that. Where have you been? Every presidency this century has been doomed but, like gawkers at traffic accidents, people still want to read about it and the media outlets know this.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 03:24 pm
@hightor,
Don't recall any about Obama.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 03:28 pm
I was also wracking my brain, trying to remember another president other than Trump, who dealt with this level of ‘doomsaying’ at this point in their presidency.

Jimmy Carter, maybe?
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 04:29 pm
Hillary isn't running in 2024.

I agree 100% with the Michael Moore statement Edgar posted several pages back.

Dems fight fair, which is their downfall and my biggest disappointment with them despite being Dem Only. (Imagine ANY Biden campaign person or advisor standing on the White House Lawn promoting on TV the sale of Biden's sons paintings as Kelly Ann Conway did for Ivanka Trump wares) Dems say "Oh, Parlimantarian this and rules say that..." **** that.(Can I still say **** here?)

Lash has her points. I don't always agree with her, but we can be civil. You win more bee's with honey... or something. (Waving to Lash!)

We need someone younger that appeals to the masses and those seeking social / environmental / voting justice. I have no idea at this point who that would be, but certainly not Clinton.

Biden and Harris should have been in Manchin / Sinema districts for weeks prior to votes on Build back Better and voter legislation. I'm a solid Dem. But, damn! This is so common sense.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 04:47 pm
I understand tribalism and I'm not out to hurt feelings. I just want things to work for once.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 05:37 pm
@squinney,
squinney wrote:

Biden and Harris should have been in Manchin / Sinema districts for weeks prior to votes on Build back Better and voter legislation. I'm a solid Dem. But, damn! This is so common sense.


Waving and nodding with this point.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2022 08:28 pm
@squinney,
Squinney!!! So glad to see you. We were talking about former abuzzers we missed.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2022 04:55 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Don't recall any about Obama.

How long did they milk the birther crap? How much attention did they give to Tea Party rallies? And don't forget about that tan suit.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2022 05:47 am
@hightor,
There has always been one-sided partisan trash that is taken as such, hurled by the opposing party against a sitting president. When the national media and one’s own party are making legitimate complaints — it is a distinct departure from mere partisan criticism.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2022 06:03 am
@Lash,
Sez you.

It's not their own party making accusations it's you, Little Miss False Flag.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2022 06:13 am
Note the number of unwarranted (and fact free) personal attacks by Izzy. Many Democrats are criticizing Biden’s inaction while while voting rights legislation returns to Jim Crow-era weakness.
Stacy Abrams refused to be seen with Biden and Harris in Atlanta—a stinging indictment.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2022 06:17 am
@Lash,
It's not an attack, and it's not fact free.

When I first arrived on A2K you were as right wing as they came, yet overnight you suddenly started supporting Sanders while attacking all other Democrats and keeping quiet about Trump.

Those are the facts.

You are not fooling anyone. Refusing to believe your bullshit and pointing it out for what it is, is not a personal attack.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2022 06:34 am
@Lash,
Quote:
When the national media and one’s own party are making legitimate complaints — it is a distinct departure from mere partisan criticism.

But don't forget that the Democratic Party has never been as ideologically unified as the Republicans. This is both a weakness and a strength. I remember a lot of criticism from the progressive wing of the party as the ACA was crafted. Had there been an ongoing global pandemic interrupting supply chains and fueling inflation at the same time, this ideological criticism about healthcare would have quickly turned into a full scale indictment of the Obama administration. Jimmy Carter, already beset by problems of his own making, was ultimately sunk by an energy crisis which wasn't his fault. It might be said that Trump lost, not because of covid-19 itself, but because of the way he handled the crisis. Presidents are often tested by events which are out of their control – and yes, complaints about their performance in these cases are legitimate.

This Presidency Isn’t Turning Out as Planned

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Joe Biden was Barack Obama’s vice president. His Treasury secretary, Janet Yellen, was Obama’s pick to lead the Federal Reserve. The director of Biden’s National Economic Council, Brian Deese, was deputy director of Obama’s National Economic Council. His chief of staff, Ron Klain, was his chief of staff for the first two years of the Obama administration and then Obama’s top Ebola adviser. And so on.

The familiar names and faces can obscure how different the new administration, in practice, has become. The problems Biden is facing are an almost perfect inversion of the problems Obama faced. The Obama administration was bedeviled by crises of demand. The Biden administration is struggling with crises of supply.

For years, every conversation I had with Obama administration economists was about how to persuade employers to hire and consumers to spend. The 2009 stimulus was too small, and while we avoided a second Great Depression, we sank into an achingly slow recovery. Democrats carried those lessons into the Covid pandemic. They met the crisis with overwhelming fiscal force, joining with the Trump administration to pass the $2.2 trillion CARES Act and then adding the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, the trillion-dollar infrastructure bill and the assorted Build Back Better proposals on top. They made clear that they preferred the risks of a hot economy, like inflation, to the threat of mass joblessness.

“We want to get something economists call full employment,” Biden said in May. “Instead of workers competing with each other for jobs that are scarce, we want employers to compete with each other to attract work.”

That they have largely succeeded feels like the best-kept secret in Washington. A year ago, forecasters expected unemployment to be nearly 6 percent in the fourth quarter of 2020. Instead, it fell to 3.9 percent in December, driven by the largest one-year drop in unemployment in American history. Wages are high, new businesses are forming at record rates, and poverty has fallen below its prepandemic levels. Since March 2020, Americans saved at least $2 trillion more than expected. And that’s not just a function of the rich getting richer: a JPMorgan Chase analysis found the median household’s checking account balance was 50 percent higher in July 2021 than in the months before the pandemic.

It is easy to imagine the wan recovery we could’ve had if the mistakes of 2009 and 2010 had been repeated. Instead, we met the pandemic with tremendous, perhaps excessive, fiscal force. We fought the recession and won. The problems we do have shouldn’t obscure the problems we don’t.

But we do have problems. Year-on-year inflation is running at 7 percent, its highest rate in decades, and Omicron has shown that the Biden administration wasted months of possible preparation. It is not to blame for the new variant, but it is to blame for the paucity of tests, effective masks and ventilation upgrades.

The conversations I have with the Biden administration’s economists are very different from the conversations I had with the Obama administration’s economists, even when they’re the same people. Now the discussion is all about what the economy can produce and how fast it can be shipped. They need companies to make more goods and make them faster. They need more chips so there can be more cars and computers. They need ports to clear more shipments and Pfizer to make more antiviral pills and shipping companies to hire more truckers and schools to upgrade their ventilation systems.

Some of these problems reflect the Biden administration’s successes. (Read my colleague Paul Krugman for more on this.) For all the talk of supply chain crises, many of the delays and shortages reflect unexpectedly strong demand, not a pandemic-induced breakdown in production. Supply chains are built to produce the goods that companies think will be consumed in the future. Expectations were off for 2021, in part because forecasters thought demand would slacken as people lost work and wages, in part because the fiscal response was massively larger than anyone anticipated and in part because when people couldn’t go out for meals and movies, they bought things instead. Overall spending is more or less on its prepandemic trend, but the composition of spending has changed: Americans purchased 18 percent more physical goods in September 2021 than in February 2020.

Now the Biden administration fears that its supply problems will wipe out its demand successes. In recent remarks, Biden took aim at those who would lower prices by breaking the buying power of the working class. “If car prices are too high right now, there are two solutions,” Biden said. “You increase the supply of cars by making more of them, or you reduce demand for cars by making Americans poorer. That’s the choice. Believe it or not, there’s a lot of people in the second camp.”

He’s right, but this is a practical fight, not just an ideological one, and the Biden administration is making its own mistakes. His administration is suffering right now from directly mismanaging Covid supplies. It did an extraordinary job in its first months, flooding the country with vaccines. Today, any adult who wants one, or three, can get the shots. But vaccines aren’t the only public health tool that matters, and there was every reason to believe the Biden administration knew it. The American Rescue Plan had about $20 billion for vaccine distribution, but it had $50 billion to expand testing and even more than that to retrofit classrooms so teachers and children alike would feel safe. Where did that money go?

Getting the pandemic supply chain right would help ease every other supply chain, too. If Americans could move about their lives more confidently, they could buy services instead of things, and if companies could test and protect their work forces more effectively, they could produce and ship more goods.

But the Biden administration hasn’t fully embraced its role as an economic planner. When Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, was asked about testing shortages in December, she shot back, “Should we just send one to every American?”

Psaki’s snark soon became Biden’s policy. The administration is launching a website where any family can request four free tests. That’s a start, but no more than that. For rapid testing to work, people need to be able to do it constantly. But because the administration didn’t create the supply of tests it needed months ago, there aren’t enough tests for it or anyone else to buy now. Part of this reflects the ongoing failure of the Food and Drug Administration to approve many of the tests already being sold in Europe.

The same is true, I’d argue, about masks. There’s simply no reason every American can’t pick up an unlimited supply of N95s and KN95s at every post office, library and D.M.V. Instead, people are buying counterfeit N95s on Amazon and wearing cloth masks that do far less to arrest spread. Now the Biden administration is moving toward supplying masks. But more needs to be done: How about ventilation? How about building the vaccine production capacity needed to vaccinate the world and prevent future strains from emerging? How about building capacity to produce more antiviral pills so that the next effective treatment can ramp up more quickly?

For decades, Democrats and Republican administrations alike believed the market would manage supply. We live in the wreckage of that worldview. But it held for so long that the U.S. government has lost both the muscle and the confidence needed to manage supply, at least when it comes to anything other than military spending. So Biden’s task now is clear: to build a government that can create supply, not just demand.

This may not be the presidency Biden prepared for, but it’s the one he got.

nyt/klein
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