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Tokyo 2020(1) Fantasy Olympics

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jul, 2021 06:44 pm
@markr,
markr wrote:
Were you using data from Gracenote that was newer than April? I never found anything newer than that. That's why I didn't use them as the "expert." Well, that and the fact that they never posted a complete set of data. They only showed the top 30.

Nothing newer. I only used their April top 30 that was linked in this thread.

They did mention that they expected Hong Kong to win five medals, which was more than the budget gave them credit for. So I included Hong Kong even though it wasn't on their top 30.

Now that I'm thinking of it, I had 12.5 credits left after applying all the countries Gracenote expected to exceed the budget performance, so I also picked Slovenia on my own too.

I didn't put any thought into picking Slovenia. I needed to spend 12 credits and they were worth 12 credits.

I did put a little thought into picking Tunisia for my last .5 credit because I didn't know of any other way to rank the .5 countries than to do it myself. I looked at the teams that every .5 country was sending, and Tunisia's team seemed the most robust.
markr
 
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Reply Sat 31 Jul, 2021 07:25 pm
@oralloy,
Tunisia turned out to be a really good pick. 8 points for half a buck.
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markr
 
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Reply Sun 1 Aug, 2021 11:57 am
The race is tightening!

Code:2021 Standings
1 tgordon92 569 911.50
2 markr 557 911.00
3 wheel158 555 911.50
4 McGentrix 548 911.00
5 George 528 909.00
6 Ecartmill 518 911.50
7 Ticomaya 517 911.50
8 Skin Rip 514 910.00
9 fbaezer 502 911.50
10 lmur 478 911.50
11 ehBeth 464 907.00
12 Oralloy 464 911.50
wheel158
 
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Reply Sun 1 Aug, 2021 06:17 pm
@markr,
Go USA! Probably a bad pick, but it makes watching more fun (for me).
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 2 Aug, 2021 11:27 am
And the lead has widened slightly...

Day 10
Code:2021 Standings
1 tgordon92 635 911.50
2 wheel158 616 911.50
3 markr 610 911.00
4 McGentrix 600 911.00
5 George 585 909.00
6 Ecartmill 581 911.50
7 Skin Rip 577 910.00
8 fbaezer 573 911.50
9 Ticomaya 558 911.50
10 lmur 544 911.50
11 ehBeth 525 907.00
12 Oralloy 512 911.50
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George
 
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Reply Mon 2 Aug, 2021 11:52 am
Shh.
I'm sneaking up on McG.
Be vewy vewy quiet.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 2 Aug, 2021 12:44 pm
My picks are not doing very well, so far.

This is how I made my choice:
First, snub the USA. Cazeneuve before, AP and everyone now, they always overestimate the US because the market wants sweet news.
Second, pick Japan. Hosts are always underestimated.
Third, pick Australia. The best country in sports.
Pick China, on the thought they kept on training while others were in confinement.
Then, go for the other underestimated teams, IMHO. Ecuador was the easiest one, they had a cinch gold in weightlifting. Italy was another obvious choice, in my opinion, but they are lacking enough golds.
And then, fill-ins to make the budget, and here is where I have been very weak, so far: Kenya, Ukraine (ugh) and Germany have so far let me down. So has Malaysia.
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 11:43 am
@George,
Quote:
Shh.
I'm sneaking up on McG.
Be vewy vewy quiet.


I think he, and everybody else, heard you.
markr
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 11:46 am
Things have gotten much more interesting. Only 10 points separate first from fourth.

Day 11
Code:2021 Standings
1 tgordon92 686 911.50
2 markr 683 911.00
3 McGentrix 681 911.00
4 wheel158 676 911.50
5 Skin Rip 655 910.00
6 Ecartmill 645 911.50
7 fbaezer 636 911.50
8 George 630 909.00
9 lmur 619 911.50
10 Ticomaya 607 911.50
11 ehBeth 604 907.00
12 Oralloy 587 911.50
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wheel158
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 12:54 pm
This was a great race:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/olympics/best-race-in-olympic-history-inside-the-record-breaking-duel-between-rai-benjamin-and-karsten-warholm/ar-AAMRKHT?ocid=msedgntp
markr
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 01:30 pm
@wheel158,
Yes it was. On NBC, one of the track announcers mentioned something along the lines that there's pressure on the Italian-based track surface company to provide a springy (or something like that) track for fast times in the Olympics.

That, and these excerpts from the article:
Quote:
Until the beginning of last month, the world record was 46.78 seconds. It was set by Kevin Young in 1992 - before Benjamin and Warholm, both 25, were born. The top three finishers all bested it Tuesday.

And it wasn't just the medalists. Six of the eight men in the race set new national records for their respective nations. The times recorded by fourth- and fifth-place finishers - Kyron McMaster of the British Virgin Islands and Abderrahman Samba of Qatar - would have been good enough to win gold medals at any of the past five Olympic Games.

"It's just crazy that we're all good at the same time," Benjamin said.

make me wonder if it's not really as "crazy" as Benjamin suggested.
wheel158
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 02:35 pm
@markr,
Interesting take on the track surface. I didn't realize it was any different than the track from 2016. It does make you wonder about the WR.

However, there's no disputing that 400 m Hurdles event was fast. Especially if you compare their times to the regular 400 m race.

The times from Warholm and Benjamin were so fast that they would have been competitive even in the regular 400-meter field. Forty-eight men entered the 400 at the Tokyo Olympics, and Warholm ran faster than 18 of them Tuesday, while also jumping over 10 hurdles. Benjamin ran faster than 14.
markr
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 04:12 pm
@wheel158,
I don't know that it is different - just pointing out that they intentionally make it fast - but since technology improves with time, maybe it is faster.

On a related note, I recall someone on NBC also commenting about some new technology in shoes (not sure which sport).
markr
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 05:42 pm
@markr,
Here's just the beginning of an article on the shoe topic.
Quote:
New 'super-shoes' are allowing athletes at the Tokyo Olympics to smash world records thanks to their carbon-fibre plates and air pod 'mattresses'.

Sports chiefs were already facing huge pressure to ban high-tech footwear before the delayed games even began.

And now the controversial issue – which has been brewing for years – has been thrust into the limelight once again, with all eyes on Nike’s Air Zoom Maxfly.

Norway's 400m hurdles gold medal winner Karsten Warholm today launched a rant against Nike's 'bull****' spike technology after winning one of the 'greatest Olympic races of all time'.

He obliterated his own world record to claim gold while wearing the £170 ($236) Puma EvoSpeed Future Faster+ spikes, designed with the Mercedes F1 team.

But Rai Benjamin from the US, wearing the £165 ($229) Nike Maxfly spikes, came in a very close second ,and also beat the previous world record of 46.70 seconds set by Warholm in Oslo last year.

The new generation of high-tech running shoes – branded a technological arms race between footwear giants – have been created to boost performance, further enhanced by specially designed running tracks.

Expert say this means current speeds achieved by modern athletes can't be compared to those of the past due to the boost the technology provides.


This came from:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9857017/Rise-athletics-super-shoe-Carbon-fibre-plates-air-pods-boost-speed.html
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 10:53 pm
Wikipedia seems to be slow to update. I've modified the spreadsheet to pull scores from the official site - the website was already getting data from there.
markr
 
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Reply Tue 3 Aug, 2021 11:35 pm
@markr,
Well - that didn't work out, so back to wikipedia.
George
 
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Reply Wed 4 Aug, 2021 05:54 am
@markr,
markr wrote:
Quote:
Shh.
I'm sneaking up on McG.
Be vewy vewy quiet.
I think he, and everybody else, heard you.
Curses! Foiled again!
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tgordon92
 
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Reply Wed 4 Aug, 2021 09:40 am
@markr,
You're missing a gold medal for Georgia. Their weightlifter demolished the world record today and won by 47kg, so perhaps that broke your data scraping!

Quote:
@markr,
Well - that didn't work out, so back to wikipedia.
wheel158
 
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Reply Wed 4 Aug, 2021 11:34 am
@tgordon92,
Looks OK to me; perhaps there was a delay? On the spreadsheet for Georgia, I see:

2 Gold
4 Silver
1 Bronze

I see the same tally on https://www.nbcolympics.com/medals
wheel158
 
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Reply Wed 4 Aug, 2021 12:22 pm
You pulled ahead with a big lead! I need as many points from USA and India as I can get; otherwise, I'm toast.
 

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