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If Disney produced a NEW ROGER RABBIT film, and they desexualized Jessica Rabbit ... ?

 
 
JGoldman10
 
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Sun 21 Mar, 2021 11:51 pm
People have complained online about how Warner Bros. desexualized Lola Bunny in Space Jam 2, and talked about how political correctness is impacting how Disney and Warner Bros. handle cartoons, past and present.

Meanwhile, as some folks on YouTube pointed out, PIXAR is continuing to create female characters in THEIR animated films with huge butts.

Why is this? Why is this "okay" for PIXAR to do? Why is no one calling THEM out about doing that?
izzythepush
 
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Mon 22 Mar, 2021 03:02 am
@JGoldman10,
Oh dear, it’s such a shame that you can longer jerk off to pictures of Lola Bunny. You seem to be the only person upset about this why don’t you call Pixar out about it?

Tell them that as a religious extremist into fart fetishism and sex with anthropomorphic animals life is hard enough already.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 22 Mar, 2021 03:13 am
@JGoldman10,
Kids need to see the world as it is and the World has all manner of people in it. If certain people are whitewashed out of culture they grow up weirdly dysfunctional just like you.

You’re either complaining about how things aren’t like they used to be or attacking LGBT and black people despite claiming to be African American yourself.

When you’re not doing that you’re lusting after cartoon animals and flatulent women and you have the gall to make fun of LGBT people.

You don’t seem to appreciate what is appropriate for children, your basis for an “abortive” children’s series was the film The Warriors a nasty violent film about gangs beating each other up and killing people. There is no way something like that can be sanitised enough to be suitable for children.

No responsible parent would let their child read stuff like that.

But there won’t be any because you won’t get further than a few preliminary sketches.

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Rebelofnj
 
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Mon 22 Mar, 2021 03:27 am
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
Meanwhile, as some folks on YouTube pointed out, PIXAR is continuing to create female characters in THEIR animated films with huge butts.

Why is this? Why is this "okay" for PIXAR to do? Why is no one calling THEM out about doing that?


Because those characters are not sexualized in the films. I think you are just talking about only one character, Elasti-Girl in the Incredibles films.

Pixar don't really focus on human characters that much; they normally favor non-humans such as monsters, fish, toys, and cars.

If you actually seen the films instead of relying on YouTube videos and clips, you would know that.
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 12:29 am
@Rebelofnj,
No. Pixar HAS apparently come under fire for giving their animated mom characters "dump trucks":

https://ruinmyweek.com/entertainment/movies/disney-body-proportions-debate/

I wasn't just talking about Helen Parr/Mrs. Incredible from The Incredibles.

If giving female characters big butts is not to sexualize them then what's the point?

The Pixar short Inner Workings received some criticism:

https://cafemom.com/entertainment/disney-unrealistic-beauty-standards-inner-workings/it-all-started-with-a-tweet-about-a-certain-short


JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 12:31 am
Apparently there ARE people taking the issue of Warner Bros. banning Elmer Fudd from using a gun seriously:

https://www.yourerie.com/digital-first/digital-exclusive/digital-exclusive-elmer-fudd-loses-his-gun/
oralloy
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 12:40 am
@JGoldman10,
I think the issue is worth boycotting them (and pirating their content if I still want to watch).

I switched my antivirus software to McAfee because of Symantec's anti-Second Amendment stance. And I'd been a reliable paying Symantec customer for something like 25 years.

I also no longer stay at a Best Western Plus when I travel because of their anti-Second Amendment stance.

I doubt that Bugs Bunny cartoons are something that I'd be watching even without a boycott*, so I guess maybe they won't notice my absence. But if I were going to watch, I'd be pirating.


*Unless these new cartoons are designed for adults. I guess I don't know anything about these new releases.
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 12:47 am
@oralloy,
Parents DO need to monitor whatever entertainment their kids are being subject to. That's being good, responsible parents. And they should talk to their kids about whatever it is their kids are watching, reading, playing, and/or listening to.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 05:12 am
@JGoldman10,
Your sources are random mom blogs, and the tweets they link to barely have 30 likes each. The outrage is not as widespread as you think.

Also, Pixar did not produce Inner Workings. It was done by Disney Animation Studio. Most people didn't really too much pay attention to the short in theaters, instead focusing to the main feature it was attached to, Moana.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 07:29 am
@JGoldman10,
Your logic is getting confusing.

You said at the start of this thread:
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Political correctness is a big thing now, and it's impacting how big studios like Disney and Warner Bros. handle cartoons now, past and present.
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It's NOT PC anymore to sexualize female characters for what's supposed to be kids'/family entertainment. This is a big reason why Minerva Mink and Hello Nurse were dropped from WB's ANIMANIACS reboot.


But you keep accusing Disney and Pixar of sexualizing female characters in their current films made for families.

However, despite your claim that it is "NOT PC anymore to sexualize female characters", general audiences at large have not expressed widespread outage by the character designs (the ones you claim are sexualized) in Disney and Pixar films.
By all accounts, Disney's animated films are still very popular with families and are still financially successful.
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 07:37 am
@Rebelofnj,
I did see both of The Incredibles movies on TV. I have told a number of people I know, people who know that I am a cartoonist, that I am not creating any sexy-looking, pinup-y female characters. I am creating kid-friendly/family-friendly/all-age entertainment for kids and general audiences and kids are the target audience. I don't want to corrupt and/or pervert youngsters and I don't want deviants making lewd or even Rule 34 material out of my characters.

There are some sickos out there who will find an excuse to make lewd and/or pornographic material out of ANYTHING.
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 07:57 am
@Rebelofnj,
Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "outdated humor"?
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 08:01 am
@Rebelofnj,
IS Roger Rabbit still popular? The fact that Mondo created a new poster based on the movie doesn't make it popular.

As you said, certain things don't stay popular forever and I thought the film fell into relative obscurity.
izzythepush
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 08:04 am
@JGoldman10,
Can’t you do that yourself?

All your references and sources of inspiration are all about fifty years old. When you do mention something more contemporary like Spongebob, it’s so you can rubbish it.
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 08:07 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

I did see both of The Incredibles movies on TV. I have told a number of people I know, people who know that I am a cartoonist, that I am not creating any sexy-looking, pinup-y female characters. I am creating kid-friendly/family-friendly/all-age entertainment for kids and general audiences and kids are the target audience. I don't want to corrupt and/or pervert youngsters and I don't want deviants making lewd or even Rule 34 material out of my characters.

There are some sickos out there who will find an excuse to make lewd and/or pornographic material out of ANYTHING.


A number of people I have met over the years have tried to sway me to use sex to sell MY toons and comics, and every time people tried to do that I told them "no".

Yes I AM aware of some of the cartoons and comics that are out there currently. I have paid attention to some of the stuff being made over the last two decades.
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JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 08:12 am
@izzythepush,
Sigh. There IS a market for retro entertainment. Retro cartoons, comics, video games and such.

Have you ever heard of Cuphead? I am not a fan of that indie video game series, for a number of reasons, but these games came out recently and both video games are designed to look like old 1930's cartoons.

Those games are impressive from a technological standpoint.

I can make cartoons and comics that are throwbacks to old Hollywood cartoons, which includes Golden Age Hollywood cartoon shorts and film cartoons, and old '80s and '90s TV cartoons. I can modernize them a bit. Kids can still be interested in them.
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 08:28 am
@izzythepush,
Do you know why a lot of old cartoons get rebooted? There are a lot of old cartoon franchises that were once very popular and they want to respark interest in them, and draw in NEW audiences.
izzythepush
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 08:51 am
@JGoldman10,
They bring them up to date. All you know about today is that you don’t like it.
JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 08:59 am
@izzythepush,
Yes, part of the reason is because they want to bring in new audiences, meaning KIDS.
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JGoldman10
 
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Tue 23 Mar, 2021 09:00 am
Here's a good question. Someone correct me if I am wrong - how come a lot of parents don't complain about cartoon violence?
 

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