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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 10:31 am
@oralloy,
I agree.
Third world countries are done before us.
Only a fool doesn’t admit it.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 10:44 am
@oralloy,
But you did miss the point. It's similar to what Nixon complained about in his book, Six Crises (1962):
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In New York I had seen evidence of the use by Kennedy and his associates of a time-worn but highly effective campaign technique – the victory blitz. Kennedy and all of his associates were now talking in terms of not just of victory but of a landslide. Lou Harris, his private pollster, was predicting a four-to-five million vote popular margin. (...) I recalled to my associates what Jim Farley had been saying at the Al Smith dinner – that Kennedy was going to carry forty states. Farley as an experienced pro couldn't possibly have reached so ridiculous a conclusion; but he knew that in a close election, those who tend always to "play the winner" might determine the outcome, and he was doing his bit to see to it that everybody in his reach would think that Kennedy was "a sure thing".


I don't know how effective the strategy is, but it's based on standard marketing principles. Some people just follow the crowd and gravitate toward what they believe to be the most popular product.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 10:47 am
@Lash,
Not really. In Peru's recent presidential election, it took 2 weeks to count all the votes, which include votes from Peruvian citizens living outside of the country.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/perus-fujimori-admits-defeat-presidential-election-lashes-out-socialist-rival-2021-07-19/

Not to mention, the 2000 US Presidential election took weeks to resolve, which include the recount and the Supreme Court.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 10:49 am
@oralloy,
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Something fishy is going on.

No, it's totally understandable and was expected. Relax.

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Why can’t Arizona be more like Florida? In the last few days, this has become a common refrain.

“How come Florida w/ population of 22 million can get same day election results and Arizona w/ population of 7 million can’t?” Greta Van Susteren tweeted Thursday.

Florida had posted the vast majority of election results by the end of the night on Election Day. But on Thursday afternoon, Arizona still had a substantial quantity of ballots outstanding. Maricopa County, where more than half of voters live, was estimating it still had 26% of ballots to count

On “The Charlie Kirk Show,” gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake said that the state was intentionally delaying the results to “pour cold water on this movement.” To which her opponent, Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, tweeted that the speed at which results were coming in was “exactly what we expected.”

Here we have two swing states, with widespread mail-in voting, and similar laws. So why is Florida so much faster?

The main difference: Florida doesn’t have an avalanche of mail ballots on Election Day. The state doesn’t allow mail voters to drop off their ballots anywhere but the county elections office on Tuesday.

Arizona does, and Maricopa County voters took advantage of late voting this year more than ever before. The county received 290,000 mail-in ballots on Election Day, according to County Supervisors Chairman Bill Gates, the most ever, and a 70% increase from 2020’s general election. That includes mail-in ballots sent in the mail, or dropped off at a vote center or drop box.

The voter signatures on the envelopes of those mail-in ballots take time for county workers to verify.

Florida is already done verifying those signatures before Election Day. Mark Earley, supervisor of elections in Leon County, Florida, explains it like this: “By election morning, we have processed roughly 95% of our (mail-in ballots), tabulated them, and the results are sitting there waiting to be uploaded into our election management system, and compiled and released promptly after 7 p.m. on election night.”

Florida also has no choice but to count quickly. Florida law requires, with some exceptions, counties to finish counting early ballots by 7 p.m. the day before the Election Day, and requires those results to be posted within 30 minutes of polls closing.

There is also one major difference in how Florida counties process mail-in ballots. Florida counties have in-house scanners that process the ballot envelopes. Maricopa County does not. Election workers must pack the ballots up to be sent in their original envelopes to a separate facility in Phoenix, owned by Runbeck Election Services, to be scanned.

This transfer of ballots takes a long time. Richer tweeted that it took his team five hours, from midnight on Election Day to 5 a.m. Wednesday, to prepare the 275,000 mail-in ballot envelopes to send to Runbeck to have them scanned. The scanning process there also takes time. Votebeat reporter Jen Fifield’s ballot, dropped off at a vote center on Election Day, wasn’t scanned — indicating it was officially received — until 6:11 p.m. Wednesday, according to a text from the county’s ballot tracking system.

After scanning, Runbeck sends the ballots back to the county and signature verification can begin. Richer tweeted that the county had started verifying signatures by 7 a.m. Wednesday on the Election Day mail ballots they had received back. They come back in rounds from Runbeck, he said.

Gates defended the time it was taking the county to count ballots at a Thursday news conference. The county’s election workers are working long hours, he said.

“Quite frankly it is offensive for Kari Lake to say that these people behind me are slow rolling it when they are working 14 to 18 hours,” Gates said.

Richer said the county has made its signature verification process more rigorous, after getting concerns after 2020’s election that it was done too quickly.

But he also pointed out that it was normal to not know the results of tight races by now. He wasn’t certain he had won his race for county recorder in 2020 until the week after the election, he said.

His opponent at the time, Adrian Fontes, the former county recorder who is now running as the democratic candidate for secretary of state, also defended Maricopa County’s process in a tweet on Thursday, saying that the county had been counting early ballots for over two weeks “because they’re careful and thorough.”

“When hundreds of thousands show up on the last day, requiring that same careful process … results will take time,” Fontes wrote. “It’s ok. Better correct than quick.”

Richer tweeted that as the number dropped off on Election Day grows, “we will likely want to have a policy conversation about which we value more: convenience of dropping off early ballot on election day or higher percentage of returns with 24 hours of Election Night.”

Asked if he thinks the state should change its laws, Richer said at the news conference Thursday that “it would have been nice” to get the mail-in ballots sooner.

When someone tweeted at him that Arizona “should take lessons from states that actually figured out how to do it efficiently and adjust their methods,” Richer said he agreed.

“We should take a good look at some of these laws and methods,” he wrote.

But Gates said Thursday he isn’t sure he would want to change the laws. He said there are positives to allowing voters to easily turn in their mail-in ballots so late. Like skipping lines on Election Day.

arizonavotebeat
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 11:00 am
@Rebelofnj,
Re 2000, do you believe everything as presented in America—news and politics?

And, a little help with your rather controversial post re fascism. I’ll find it and ask for clarification there soon.
BillW
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 11:21 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

The arguments of these MAGA-"activists" are as confused as their slogans.


But they are highly entertaining.

In a "3 Stooges" kinda way!
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 11:24 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Re 2000, do you believe everything as presented in America—news and politics?


It was clear that it took weeks to declare a winner in the 2000 Presidential election, and that there was a recount that was resolved by the Supreme Court.
Whether if anything "fishy" happened during the 2000 election is not my point when I brought the election.

Lash wrote:

And, a little help with your rather controversial post re fascism. I’ll find it and ask for clarification there soon.


I have no recollection on what you are talking about. Did I write a pro-fascism post? Going though my posts in the last 6 months, I can't find anything that matches your description.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 11:44 am
You have to hand ut to Lash, nobody can package disinformation and wild eyed conspiracy bollocks as insight and understanding like her.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 11:49 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Not to mention, the 2000 US Presidential election took weeks to resolve, which include the recount and the Supreme Court.

Setting aside the fact that that was a notorious attempt to steal the 2000 election from W, those were all recounts and election challenges.

The first count didn't take very long to carry out.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 12:26 pm
And since we got W (courtesy of the Supreme Court) we were able to have 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Thank you 43!!
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 12:43 pm
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 12:54 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I didn’t say ‘pro’ fascism. I just wanted clarification. I’m too dense to understand what you meant.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 01:14 pm
@Lash,
But what post are you talking about?

All you said was this:
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And, a little help with your rather controversial post re fascism. I’ll find it and ask for clarification there soon.

https://able2know.org/topic/555216-476#post-7279594
in response to something I apparently posted.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 01:31 pm
As folks like us sit around up on deck sipping mint julips in the Caribbean sun while watching the the porpoises porpoising we can fail to remember the guys down in the engine room
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Daniel Squadron @DanielSquadron
Nov 11
HISTORY. MADE. For the first time since 1934, the party who holds the WH didn’t lose a *single* state leg chamber. AND we gained 2 new trifectas. I believe that the @StatesProjectUS historic investment made the difference. Here's why.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 01:32 pm
You know how private investors are buying up housing – from trailer parks and developments to luxury apartments buildings, and raising housing prices across the country? Well, they're doing the same thing to farmland:

Farmland Values Hit Record Highs, Pricing Out Farmers

Small farmers are now going up against deep-pocketed investors, including private equity firms and real estate developers.

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Joel Gindo thought he could finally own and operate the farm of his dreams when a neighbor put up 160 acres of cropland for sale in Brookings County, S.D., two years ago. Five thousand or six thousand dollars an acre should do the trick, Mr. Gindo estimated.

But at auction, Mr. Gindo watched helplessly as the price continued to climb until it hit $11,000 an acre, double what he had budgeted for.

“I just couldn’t compete with how much people are paying, with people paying 10 grand,” he said. “And for someone like me who doesn’t have an inheritance somewhere sitting around, a lump sum of money sitting around, everything has to be financed.”

What is happening in South Dakota is playing out in farming communities across the nation as the value of farmland soars, hitting record highs this year and often pricing out small or beginning farmers. In the state, farmland values surged by 18.7 percent from 2021 to 2022, one of the highest increases in the country, according to the most recent figures from the Agriculture Department. Nationwide, values increased by 12.4 percent and reached $3,800 an acre, the highest on record since 1970, with cropland at $5,050 an acre and pastureland at $1,650 an acre.

A series of economic forces — high prices for commodity crops like corn, soybeans and wheat; a robust housing market; low interest rates until recently; and an abundance of government subsidies — have converged to create a “perfect storm” for farmland values, said Jason Henderson, a dean at the College of Agriculture at Purdue University and a former official at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.

As a result, small farmers like Mr. Gindo are now going up against deep-pocketed investors, including private equity firms and real estate developers, prompting some experts to warn of far-reaching consequences for the farming sector.

Young farmers named finding affordable land for purchase the top challenge in 2022 in a September survey by the National Young Farmers Coalition, a nonprofit group.

Already, the supply of land is limited. About 40 percent of farmland in the United States is rented, most of it owned by landlords who are not actively involved in farming. And the amount of land available for purchase is extremely scant, with less than 1 percent of farmland sold on the open market annually.

The booming housing market, among a number of factors, has bolstered the value of farmland, particularly in areas close to growing city centers.

“What we have seen over the past year or two was, when housing starts to go up with new building construction, that puts pressure on farmland, especially on those urban fringes,” Professor Henderson explained. “And that leads to a cascading ripple effect into land values even farther and farther away.”

Government subsidies to farmers have also soared in recent years, amounting to nearly 39 percent of net farm income in 2020. On top of traditional programs like crop insurance payments, the Agriculture Department distributed $23 billion to farmers hurt by President Donald J. Trump’s trade war from 2018 to 2020 and $45.3 billion in pandemic-related assistance in 2020 and 2021. (The government’s contribution to farm income decreased to 20 percent in 2021 and is forecast to be about 8 percent in 2022.)

Those payments, or even the very promise of additional assistance, increase farmland values as they create a safety net and signal that agricultural land is a safe bet, research shows.

“There’s an expectation in the market that the government’s going to play a role when farm incomes drop, so that definitely affects investment behavior,” said Jennifer Ifft, a professor of agricultural economics at Kansas State University.

Eager investors are increasingly turning to farmland in the face of volatility in the stock and real estate markets. Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder and a billionaire, is the biggest private farmland owner in the country and recently won approval to buy 2,100 acres in North Dakota for $13.5 million.

The number of private equity funds seeking to buy stakes in farmland has ticked higher, said Tim Koch, a vice president at an agricultural financial cooperative in the Midwest, Farm Credit Services of America. Pension funds also consider farmland a stable investment, Professor Ifft said.

Farmers, too, have witnessed an influx of outside interest. Nathaniel Bankhead, who runs a farm and garden consulting business in Chattanooga, Tenn., has banded with a group of other agricultural workers to save up to $500,000 to buy about 60 acres of land. For months, the collective has been repeatedly outbid by real estate developers, investors looking to diversify their portfolios and urban transplants with “delusional agrarian dreams,” he said.

“Places that I have looked at as potential farmland are being bought up in cash before I can even go through the process that a working-class person has to do to access land,” he said. “And the ironic thing is, those are my clients, like I get hired by them to do as a hobby what I’m trying to do as a livelihood. So it’s tough to watch.”

Mr. Bankhead characterized the current landscape as a form of “digital feudalism” for aspiring working farmers. Wealthy landowners drive up land prices, contract with agricultural designers like himself to enact their vision and then hire a caretaker to work the land — pricing out those very employees from becoming owners themselves.

“They kind of lock that person to this new flavor of serfdom where it’s, you might be decently paid, you’ve got access to it, but it will never be yours,” he said.

Unable to afford land in her native Florida, Tasha Trujillo recently moved her flower farm to South Carolina. Ms. Trujillo had grown cut flowers and kept bees on a parcel of her brother-in-law’s five-acre plant nursery in Redland, a historically agricultural region in the Miami area, about 20 miles south of downtown.

When she sought to expand her farm and buy her own land, she quickly found that prices were out of reach, with real estate developers driving up land values and pushing out agriculture producers.

A five-acre property in the Redlands now costs $500,000 to $700,000, Ms. Trujillo said. “So I essentially didn’t have a choice but to leave Miami and Florida as a whole.”

“Farming is a very stressful profession,” she added. “When you throw in land insecurity, it makes it 20 times worse. So there were many, many times where I thought: ‘Oh my God. I’m not going to be able to do this. This isn’t feasible.’”

As small and beginning farmers are shut out — the latest agricultural census said that the average age of farmers inched up to 57.5 — the prohibitively high land values may have ripple effects on the sector at large.

Brian Philpot, the chief executive of AgAmerica, an agricultural lending institution, said his firm’s average loan size had increased as farms consolidated, squeezing out family farms. This, he argued, could lead to a farm crisis.

“Do we have the skills and the next generation of people to farm it? And two, if the answer is going to be, we’re going to have passive owners own this land and lease it out, is that very sustainable?” he said.

Professor Henderson also warned that current farmers may face increased financial risk as they seek to leverage their high farmland values, essentially betting the farm to expand it.

“They’ll buy more land but they’ll use debt to do it,” he said. “They’ll stretch themselves out.”

Economists and lenders said farmland values appeared to have plateaued in recent months, as the Federal Reserve raised interest rates and the cost of fertilizer and diesel soared. But with high commodity prices forecast for next year, some believe values will remain high.

A native of Tanzania who moved to South Dakota about a decade ago, Mr. Gindo bought seven acres of land to raise livestock in 2019 and currently rents an additional 40 acres to grow corn and soybeans — all the while working full time as a comptroller to make ends meet.

For now, he has cooled off his search for a farm of his own even as he dreams of passing on that land to his son. The more immediate concern, he said, was whether his landlord would raise his rent. So far, the landlord has refrained because Mr. Gindo helps him out around the farm.

“He really doesn’t have to lend me his land,” Mr. Gindo said. “He can make double that with someone else.”

In Florida, Ms. Trujillo said, the owner of the land where her brother-in-law’s nursery sits has spoken of selling the plot while prices remain high, so he too has begun looking for his own property.

“That’s a big fear for a lot of these farmers and nursery owners who are renting land, because you just never know when the owner’s just going to say: ‘You know what? This year, I’m selling and you’ve got to go,’” she said.

In Tennessee, Mr. Bankhead said he considered giving up on owning a farm “multiple times a day” as friends who have been longtime farmers leave the profession.

But so far, he remains committed to staying in the field and doing “the work of trying to keep land in families’ hands and showing there’s more to do with this land than to sell it to real estate developers,” he said. “But the pain of not having my own garden and not being able to have my animals where I live, it never stings any less.”

nyt
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 02:06 pm
Another thought on the diminishing "Election Fraud!" rhetoric and behavior.

The near absolute failures and embarrassments of Giuliani and crowd in the courts over the last two years (and knowing that Marc Elias and others are still eager to challenge everything silly) must surely have dampened any enthusiasm for treading that path again.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 02:48 pm
Calling All Advertisers!

Quote:
Elon Musk @elonmusk
3h
Twitter feels increasingly alive
blatham
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 03:04 pm
Charles P. Pierce's name for Stephen Miller
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Bubbles Goebbels
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 04:17 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Calling All Advertisers!

Quote:
Elon Musk @elonmusk
3h
Twitter feels increasingly alive


But so does being eaten by a shark—in the beginning.
Still, hope he can figure it out.
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