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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 04:29 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
But you did miss the point. It's similar to what Nixon complained about in his book, Six Crises (1962):
Quote:
In New York I had seen evidence of the use by Kennedy and his associates of a time-worn but highly effective campaign technique – the victory blitz. Kennedy and all of his associates were now talking in terms of not just of victory but of a landslide. Lou Harris, his private pollster, was predicting a four-to-five million vote popular margin. (...) I recalled to my associates what Jim Farley had been saying at the Al Smith dinner – that Kennedy was going to carry forty states. Farley as an experienced pro couldn't possibly have reached so ridiculous a conclusion; but he knew that in a close election, those who tend always to "play the winner" might determine the outcome, and he was doing his bit to see to it that everybody in his reach would think that Kennedy was "a sure thing".

I don't know how effective the strategy is, but it's based on standard marketing principles. Some people just follow the crowd and gravitate toward what they believe to be the most popular product.

What does any of that have to do with this current election?
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 04:54 pm
@oralloy,
Setting very low expectations strategically can make a loss seem like a win.
(Never watched West Wing, eh?)
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 05:21 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Setting very low expectations strategically can make a loss seem like a win.

That gets back to my original reply:
"Meh. The left really must have some sort of emotional investment in declaring that Republicans have somehow 'lost'."

For some reason the Democrats seem to have a need to declare victory even if they lose the House.

Granted, the Dems keeping the Senate means that the Republican victory will not be as great as it might have been.


Lash wrote:
Never watched West Wing, eh?

No.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 07:33 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
In a "3 Stooges" kinda way!


Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! I'll moiderize ya!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 07:39 pm
@oralloy,
How are Democrats cheating in Republican states? Seriously!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 07:48 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
It doesn't take this long to count the votes. Something fishy is going on.


No so. Sometimes it does take a long while to count votes. Florida, 2000 Presidential election. I bet GWB was glad it took so long. Sometime misguided GOP groups force manual recounts that take forever and don't hardly ever change the results.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 08:03 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

That gets back to my original reply:
"Meh. The left really must have some sort of emotional investment in declaring that Republicans have somehow 'lost'."

For some reason the Democrats seem to have a need to declare victory even if they lose the House.


Similarly, Republican leadership have viewed the midterms as a major loss for the party, with many of the party leaders blaming one another and others planning to move past Trump.

Republican rivals start considering a post-Trump future
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/13/trump-republicans-rivals-2024/

Even the conservative news outlets realize that and are highlighting the losses and the need to change strategy.

Republicans split on Trump's effect on lackluster midterms as control of Congress hangs in balance
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-split-trumps-effect-lackluster-midterms-control-congress-hangs-balance

GOP is ‘dead’ after midterm failures — time to ‘build something new’: Sen. Hawley
https://nypost.com/2022/11/13/gop-is-dead-after-midterm-failures-time-to-build-something-new-sen-hawley/

Three Pillars of 2022 GOP Disappointment
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/three-pillars-of-2022-gop-disappointment/
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 08:23 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
You have to hand ut(sic) to Lash, nobody can package disinformation and wild eyed conspiracy bollocks as insight and understanding like her.


Cough, cough, the BBC does it all the time, and you quote them all the time.
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 09:23 pm
@Builder,
BBC does disinformation best

The UK State mandated BBC has a self-styled ‘disinformation unit’ that is headed up by Mike Wendling of @BBCTrending. Their role, allegedly, is to expose online “disinformation campaigns” but rather they end up creating their own disinformation campaigns in the process. So they were rolled out on Saturday to try and diminish the number of attendees at the London rally along with a determination to discredit their message which was simply, “We want our freedoms back”.

Watching the many videos that made it to social media of the rally I was taken aback at the numbers in attendance. For me, it was the largest rally I’d seen in recent times with literally NO footage able to show the beginning and end the numbers of people were that great. So it was with surprise, but not shock, when I would read tweets from this aptly named ‘BBC disinformation’ unit wherein they spoke of “a few thousand anti-lockdown protesters”.

As an aside, the Mudrock media down under likewise ignored completely the regular protest marches in every capital city and regional centre in Australia, so the BBC aren't alone in pushing their disinformation campaigns.

And when you add in the case that Biden's mob is on trial for attempting to influence social media platforms to push their agenda, it's clear that the conspiracy "nutters" are on the money, mostly.

Like I've said before, this platform (A2k) is where the truth gets shot down, and the messengers abused and disabled by a feeble "admin". No wonder most of the good contributors have left already, and only a small handful of stalwarts drop in on occasion, to keep you shills from a complete takeover.

Might as well get in early, and tell the pretentious "mod" hitor, to go to bed.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 09:45 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
How are Democrats cheating in Republican states? Seriously!

I don't know how they are doing it.

Nevada and Arizona are Republican states?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 09:46 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
No so. Sometimes it does take a long while to count votes. Florida, 2000 Presidential election. I bet GWB was glad it took so long. Sometime misguided GOP groups force manual recounts that take forever and don't hardly ever change the results.

It didn't take very long at all to do the initial count in 2000.

2000 was about recounts and challenges. And it was ultimately a failed cheating attempt.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 09:48 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Similarly, Republican leadership have viewed the midterms as a major loss for the party, with many of the party leaders blaming one another and others planning to move past Trump.

More like some people are trying to cast it as a major loss in an attempt to damage their rivals by blaming them for the alleged loss.

I am disappointed that the Republicans will not be able to block Mr. Biden's nominees, but I'll still be happy if the Republicans manage to retake the House and impeach him.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2022 10:08 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
And it was ultimately a failed cheating attempt.


Cheating was not an issue. Chads, military/absentee ballots were the issue, and whether the Florida Secretary of State had been compromised or not.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2022 02:47 am
Something's just crawled out the dunny.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2022 04:33 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Something's just crawled out the dunny.


It's the BBC.

Your mate Saville might be dead, but his cheer squad is still active.

You look great in your colours.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2022 07:05 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Quote:
And it was ultimately a failed cheating attempt.


Cheating was not an issue. Chads, military/absentee ballots were the issue, and whether the Florida Secretary of State had been compromised or not.

One thing is happening for the cameras to distract from the real thing that’s going on somewhere else.

We’re a monopoly game for the disgustingly wealthy.
revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2022 08:19 am
@Lash,
Quote:
One thing is happening for the cameras to distract from the real thing that’s going on somewhere else.

We’re a monopoly game for the disgustingly wealthy
.

I have no idea what you could mean with your post, I mean, what is the distraction? In what context are you referring to when you say "we're a monopoly game for the disgustingly wealthy"? It seems a non sequitur.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2022 08:44 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Quote:
One thing is happening for the cameras to distract from the real thing that’s going on somewhere else.

We’re a monopoly game for the disgustingly wealthy
.

I have no idea what you could mean with your post, I mean, what is the distraction? In what context are you referring to when you say "we're a monopoly game for the disgustingly wealthy"? It seems a non sequitur.


She means we’re all fucked, and she sees all the angles.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2022 08:46 am
@snood,
Like all conspiracy theories, it relies on unproven or even unsupported assertions and intentional disregard for contrary evidence.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2022 09:10 am
@snood,
Quote:
She means we’re all fucked, and she sees all the angles.


She's a major user of 'magical thinking'.

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