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What party or parties are responsible for establishing social norms?

 
 
Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 06:36 pm
Hi. For a long time I have wondered about this. Social norms exist to help people get along with others, especially when they are out in public.

The whole reason political correctness was instilled in the first place was because some party or parties wanted to establish what is considered socially acceptable or not. There is a party or party who deems what's okay or not okay for people to do. There is some party or parties that decided what was socially acceptable decades ago is no longer socially acceptable now.

Who are the so-called "powers that be" that are responsible for this?

Please help. Thank you.
 
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 09:46 pm
Damn it, I am going to get in sooo much trouble for this.

SO there is a 1972 Volkswagen van that is painted this color that travels the country making stops in specific communities where they meet with a small, local affiliate of their charter. Those people allow the occupants of the van to shower and sleep indoors and get a good meal.

That night though, the Bud Lite and Miller (Both sponsors in case you didn't know) gets broken out and they have a blow out party. Beer, babes and Bar-B-Que. These parties have become legendary and for the most part, local law enforcement has been made aware of where that party will be.

Usually, one of the local affiliate members will be a high ranking person within the local police agency.

During these parties there are several flip board like stands strategically placed between the kegs and the port-a-jons. As people walk back and forth the are free to write ideas down to be discussed the next day before the van leaves.

In the morning, while trying to keep everyone quiet and awake the ideas are photographed and logged into a Google Doc where various affiliates login to and then discuss what ideas came up.

Some times they are good idea's like tight yoga pants, other times they are fails like pants worn below your ass cheeks.

This mystery van is constantly moving from town town across and around the US.

I hope they do not find out who this alias belongs to. I may have said too much here.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 10:05 pm
@McGentrix,
What does any of what you posted have to do with what I asked?
Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 11:02 pm
@JGoldman10,
Jack, a poor country boy, trades the family cow for a handful of magic beans, which grow into an enormous beanstalk reaching up into the clouds. Jack climbs the beanstalk and finds himself in the castle of an unfriendly giant. The giant senses Jack's presence and cries, “Fee, fie, fo, fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman!” Outwitting the giant, Jack is able to retrieve many goods once stolen from his family, including an enchanted goose that lays golden eggs. Jack then escapes by chopping down the beanstalk. The giant, who is pursuing him, falls to his death, and Jack and his family prosper.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 11:21 pm
Clearly, The Socialist Party is in charge of setting social norms.

Actually, it is not one party; rather, it is all parties working together to make the best decision for the constituency. At least in theory.

NOW, if one party creates a bunch of laws and regulations and proposals which the constituents don't like, the constituents can vote them out of office and hand the power to another party. One which has said that they will revert back to what existed before, and maybe even do other things to brighten up the lives of the people.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 11:39 pm
@Sturgis,
There's a Socialist Party within the U.S. who is responsible for establishing social norms and political correctness?
Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 11:47 pm
@JGoldman10,
Read further in my post. The second paragraph began 'Actually". It was followed with a detailed explanation of how things are done.

The comment on The Socialist Party being in charge was meant As humor. if that sailed over your head, then I don't know what to say.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:13 am
@Sturgis,
Are these parties government groups or advocacy groups?
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Ragman
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 08:18 am
@Sturgis,
Social norms are not decided by any political party or group of authority figures. These norms s are somewhat akin to how fashion trends evolve... (i.e. by popularity...sort of a word-of-mouth) fairly will-nilly - almost the way language and slang words evolve.

(Psst, Sturgis...humor is an elusive characteristic and is a subtlety that is not necessarily understood in some parts. It requires someone to be well RED. cough, cough. Socialism...cough)

Munching popcorn and watching the show.
Ragman
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 08:40 am
@Ragman,
(Oops,, meant to do Reply to All.)
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 08:50 am
@JGoldman10,
The answer is a bit complex. There is no one single Illuminati esque group controlling how the world works for centuries.

Changes in society depend on various factors: economy, leadership, geography, war, demographics, technology, etc.

Even now, because of the pandemic, there are new social norms regarding hygiene, communication, and travel.

Is there any particular social norm that has fallen out of favor that you still prefer?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 11:43 am
@Rebelofnj,
No one said anything about any Illuminati-esque groups.

Who in America decides what's okay and not okay for Americans to do?

There are certain things people used to do decades ago that they couldn't do now without getting penalized for it.

For example, it used to be fashionable or socially acceptable to make jokes about homosexuality because that was something looked down upon. You can't do that now because LGBTQIA advocacy groups will be after you.

You can't be publicly racist, especially on social media, and not get penalized for it. Look what happened to people like Hulk Hogan, or Roseanne Barr or Rachel Ray or Micheal Richards or Gilbert Godfrey. I don't know if people could get away with being publicly racist decades ago; I don't know.

This isn't necessary a racial thing. I've read accounts of some African Americans who've lost their jobs or got in trouble some other kind of way because they were publicly racist.

The reason a comedian like Dave Chappelle can do racist jokes is he's not doing it with malicious intent. People know he's joking.

There are things people used to do that they can't can't do now because of "snowflakes".

I remember reading an account of some East Indian/Middle Eastern comedian who was either a cast member of SNL or a writer of that show, and was invited to do standup in front a college crowd somewhere. He got in trouble because the audience was getting offended by the jokes he was telling and he was asked to leave.

This is the reason Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock said they don't do standup in front of college crowds anymore; college kids get TOO easily offended these days. This has to do with political correctness.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:06 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Are advocacy groups part of the government?
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:13 pm
I think people are forgetting about the FCC. That's a government group. Censors try to control what creators do and what people watch, read or listen to.

What group or groups control what people read if it's not the FCC? I know the FCC controls what people watch and listen to.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:14 pm
@JGoldman10,
So, are you suggesting you want to make homophobic and racist jokes without repercussions?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:16 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

No one said anything about any Illuminati-esque groups.

Who in America decides what's okay and not okay for Americans to do?

There are certain things people used to do decades ago that they couldn't do now without getting penalized for it.

For example, it used to be fashionable or socially acceptable to make jokes about homosexuality because that was something looked down upon. You can't do that now because LGBTQIA advocacy groups will be after you.

You can't be publicly racist, especially on social media, and not get penalized for it. Look what happened to people like Hulk Hogan, or Roseanne Barr or Rachel Ray or Micheal Richards or Gilbert Godfrey. I don't know if people could get away with being publicly racist decades ago or not; I don't know if there were any rules about that or not back then.

This isn't necessary a racial thing. I've read accounts of some African Americans who've lost their jobs or got in trouble some other kind of way because they were publicly racist.

The reason a comedian like Dave Chappelle can do racist jokes is he's not doing it with malicious intent. People know he's joking.

There are things people used to do that they can't can't do now because of "snowflakes".

I remember reading an account of some East Indian/Middle Eastern comedian who was either a cast member of SNL or a writer of that show, and was invited to do standup in front a college crowd somewhere. He got in trouble because the audience was getting offended by the jokes he was telling and he was asked to leave.

This is the reason Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock said they don't do standup in front of college crowds anymore; college kids get TOO easily offended these days. This has to do with political correctness.


-FIXED.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:17 pm
@Rebelofnj,
No. I'm a Christian. I don't want to do racist and/or homophobic jokes. I couldn't do that in good conscience.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:20 pm
@JGoldman10,
Then why are you bemoaning the fact people don't make those kind of jokes anymore?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:23 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I was making a point about censorship and control. There is a group or groups responsible for censorship and controlling entertainment.

The Comics Code Authority came about because they wanted to censor and control comic book content.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:26 pm
@JGoldman10,
That was your lot that did that. Control freak Christians who objected to 1950s horror comics.
 

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