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The woman’s condition became increasingly confusing. According to her confused memory, there were three men in the room. She later said she had been forcibly stripped of her clothes and had been beaten by someone.



The woman had tried in vain to yell at her husband for help. He either did not hear or respond to her cries.



The woman said her body wouldn’t comply to her will. She hadn’t even been able to raise her arm to defend herself.



The confused memories were so fragile that the woman could not even say how many men had raped her.

Other Religions Kill Too

The Game:
Bringing other religions down to the level of Islam is a favorite tactic of apologists confronted with the spectacle of Islamic violence. Remember Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber? How about Anders Breivik, the Norwegian killer? Why pick on Islam if other religions have the same problems?

The Truth:
Because they don’t have the same problem.

Timothy McVeigh is a good example of how the game works. Since his birth certificate says he was Catholic, Muslim apologists will say that he was a "Christian terrorist." Whatever objections are raised to this (ie. against the teachings) are then said to exonerate Islam as well, since it is also a religion. This is a logical error called a "faulty generalization." It is a conclusion based on insufficient premises.

In reality, details are important. Regardless of what his birth certificate may or may not say, McVeigh was not a religious man (in fact, he stated explicitly that he was agnostic and that "science" was his religion). At no time did he credit his deeds to religion, quote Bible verses, or claim that he killed for Jesus. His motives are very well documented through interviews and research. God is never mentioned.

The so-called “members of other faiths” alluded to by Muslims are nearly always just nominal members with no active involvement. They are neither inspired by, nor do they credit religion as Muslim terrorists do - and this is what makes it a very different matter.

Islam is associated with Islamic terrorism because that is the association that the terrorists themselves make.

Muslims who compare crime committed by people who happen to be nominal members of other religions to terror committed explicitly in the name of Islam are comparing apples to oranges.

Yes, people do sometimes die in the name of other religions - such as abortion clinic attacks in the US - but consider the scope of the problem. For example, there have been seven deadly clinic attacks over a 44 year period in the U.S. Eleven people died. This is an average of one death every 4 years.

By contrast, Islamic terrorists staged nearly ten thousand deadly attacks in just the six years following September 11th, 2001. If one goes back to 1971, when Muslim armies in Bangladesh began the mass slaughter of Hindus, through the years of Jihad in the Sudan, Kashmir and Algeria, and the present-day Sunni-Shia violence in Iraq, the number of innocents killed in the name of Islam probably exceeds five million over this same period.

Anders Breivik, who murdered 77 innocents in a lone rampage on July 22nd, 2011, was originally misidentified as a "Christian fundamentalist" by the police. In fact, the killings were later determined to be politically motivated. He also left behind a detailed 1500 page manifesto in which he stated that he is not religious, does not know if God exists, and prefers a secular state to a theocracy. Needless to say, he does not quote any Bible verses that support his killing spree, nor did he shout "praise the Lord" as he picked people off.

In the last ten years, there have been perhaps a few dozen attacks in which death occurred at the hands of outliers motivated by a religion other than Islam (see GTD). Such a small handful of loners acting in isolation can legitimately be chalked up to mental illness or (at best) genuine misunderstanding.

By contrast, Islamic terror is organized and methodical. Islamist groups span the globe with tens of thousands of dedicated members, despite intensely targeted counter-measures. Supporters number in the tens of millions. They are open about their religious goals and they kill in the name of Allah each and every day of the year. Verses in their holy texts arguably support them. There are no video debates where they are challenged on theology by "moderates."

No other religion is doing this. So, while some Muslims may pretend that other religions are just as prone to "misinterpretation" as is their “perfect” one, reality says otherwise.

Have you heard of the Klu Klux Klan?

Islamic Terrorists...murder more people every day than the KKK has in the last 70 years (26 since 1945).

The Klu Klux Klan is motivated by their belief in Jesus Christ and they base their doctrine heavily on the Bible.

4) So I point out that Christians do hateful things and acts of terrorism.

Have you heard of the Klu Klux Klan?
They are an unmistakably Christian group. The Klu Klux Klan is motivated by their belief in Jesus Christ and they base their doctrine heavily on the Bible.

when you say KKK supporters, do you mean members?

I don't think any church's support or sponsor the KKK, but the majority of KKK members are white Protestants.

I don't think that religion plays any role in racism though.

Max's statement is meaningless though. It is throw away bait.

when you say KKK supporters, do you mean members?

Coldjoint is arguing that people should be terrorists,

1. Coldjoint wants to lay any crimes done by Islamic terrorists on the foot of my friend Coskun.

2. Coldjoint doesn't want to take responsibility for any of the crimes committed by Christian terrorists such as the KKK

(and we haven't started talking about the Serbian Genocide or the Lord's Resistance Army... both fairly recent events that involved Christians).

Coldjoint's arguments are bigoted because he is applying them to Islam but neglecting that the same arguments can be made against Christianity.