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Let's fire Trump

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 09:32 pm
@neptuneblue,
The Supreme Court is yet another reason to vote for Mr. Trump. He will nominate justices who will start upholding the Second Amendment.

Mr. Biden will nominate justices who will allow the Second Amendment to continue to be violated.

I'm unsure what you mean by bait and switch conversation.

I think the fact that Mr. Biden will intentionally violate the Second Amendment is just as relevant as the fact that Mr. Trump will uphold it.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 09:40 pm
@oralloy,
The Supreme Court is the exact reason why I will not vote for Trump.

The Supreme Court IS the Supreme Court. And any thing Biden will do will either be upheld or be struck down by them.

Therefore, Trump will not earn my vote if and when there is a Supreme Court opening.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 09:42 pm
@neptuneblue,
If you don't vote for Mr. Trump then you risk having a Supreme Court that will not bother to uphold your rights.

I'm not sure what you mean by earning your vote when there is an opening on the Supreme Court.

The time to vote for Mr. Trump is before there is an opening, so that he is then in position to appoint someone who will uphold your rights when the opening eventually comes.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 09:49 pm
@oralloy,
I trust the Supreme Court will issue a judgement based on The Rule Of Law.

Unless you are hesitant they don't.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 09:52 pm
@neptuneblue,
Your trust is misplaced. Democrats appoint justices who openly flout the rule of law.

The only way to get a Supreme Court that upholds the rule of law is by voting for Mr. Trump.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 09:58 pm
@oralloy,
I disagree. Trump appointed two judges, one upheld the law and the other didn't. Your point is strangely moot.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:01 pm
@neptuneblue,
Did you notice that the Democratic nominees were all uniformly against upholding the law?

The Trump nominee who didn't uphold the law expressed his intention to do so in future cases. He thought the current case was moot.

He was clearly naive and was outmaneuvered by the Democrats.

But that's no reason to let the Democrats gain the power to thwart the law directly without having to outmaneuver people.

Rather, it's a reason to give Mr. Trump the opportunity to appoint more justices who will uphold the law.

The more Trump appointees we have, the more the law will be upheld.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:03 pm
@neptuneblue,
I've read that there are too many case being put in front of them, to cut down on rulings, they're waiting for the one case that covers as many issues already put up to make one clear ruling. I think they're going to rule for states to control gun laws and give them clear guidelines to cut off a lot of future challenges to state law controlling firearms.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:08 pm
@oralloy,
I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

Are the democratic contenders vowing to throw out the 2nd Amendment? Are you saying the 27th Amendment will make the 2nd Amendment null and void?

And you clearly add on to your original response. It makes it difficult to follow what your intent actually is. If you cannot respond in a clear, organised and timely way, don't bother - add another post.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
I think they're going to rule for states to control gun laws and give them clear guidelines to cut off a lot of future challenges to state law controlling firearms.

That would be contrary to the law. We will only get that sort of ruling if the Democrats are able to appoint justices who flout the law.

And enough with your illegal vote-down abuse already. Can't progressives ever stop cheating?
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roger
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:11 pm
@neptuneblue,
Yeah, but there's almost no limit to the restrictions that can be placed on those rights.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:14 pm
@roger,
If the Supreme Court would uphold the Constitution, there would be considerable limits.

The Constitution only allows a fundamental right to be limited if that limitation can be justified as serving a compelling government interest.

But we need more Trump appointees on the Supreme Court before it will start upholding the Constitution.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:16 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

Biden nominees = Supreme Court openly flouting the law.

Trump nominees = Supreme Court striving to uphold the law.


neptuneblue wrote:
Are the democratic contenders vowing to throw out the 2nd Amendment?

Yes.

Well, they mean to violate it. And they mean to appoint justices to the Supreme Court who will allow them to violate it.

They will be happy to leave it on the books as long as they are free to ignore what it says.


neptuneblue wrote:
Are you saying the 27th Amendment will make the 2nd Amendment null and void?

No.

I am not saying anything about the 27th Amendment.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:17 pm
@roger,
Anything not Federal law belongs to the states.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
The Fourteenth Amendment says otherwise.

And enough with your illegal vote-down abuse. Stop cheating.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:29 pm
@oralloy,
You really do make me laugh.

You stated Trump is the ONLY one who appoints/ed Supreme Court Justices who uphold the Rule Of Law. Thanks for the inaccurate portrayal of the Presidents from 1776 to 2016 who were WRONG and by God, TRUMP stepped in to save us all!

And since when is down voting ILLEGAL? Come on! Are you thinking A2K IS the Supreme Court??
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:31 pm
@neptuneblue,
You misunderstand what I meant.

Mr. Trump is the only current candidate who will appoint justices who will uphold the law.

Past Republican presidents appointed justices who will uphold the law. Future Republican presidents will do so as well.

But for this election, Mr. Trump is the candidate who will appoint justices who will uphold the law.


Everyone has one legitimate downvote. It is against the rules for bobsal to downvote my posts a dozen times or more.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:33 pm
@neptuneblue,
And he really misunderstands 14th Amendment, as well as the 1st and the second.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:38 pm
@oralloy,
Well, YES, Trump IS the current President.

Did you think otherwise?

ALL presidents should appoint Supreme Court Justices that uphold the Rule Of Law. Isn't that what EVERY President had done and will continue to do?
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 21 Jun, 2020 10:42 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
ALL presidents should appoint Supreme Court Justices that uphold the Rule Of Law.

Indeed they should.

It's a shame that they don't.


neptuneblue wrote:
Isn't that what EVERY President had done and will continue to do?

No.

Democratic presidents appoint justices who openly flout the law.

Joe Biden will appoint justices who will openly flout the law.
 

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